Oral History Interviews of the Janesville Bicentennial Labor Oral History Project, 1976-1977

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Series: Hugo Preuss
Note: 1619 Elizabeth Street, Janesville
1976 August 3
Tape/Side   13/1-A
Time   0:00 to 0:25
Introduction
Tape/Side   13/1-A
Time   0:26 to 7:00
Family background--grandparents emmigrated from Germany, parents as children at the time--origins in Pomerania near Stettin--never any desire to return to Germany
Tape/Side   13/1-A
Time   7:01 to 10:06
Family spoke High and Low German when H. P. was a youth--H. P. born on River St.--residences of grandparents
Tape/Side   13/1-A
Time   10:07 to 16:22
Maternal grandfather as a mason tender--family political background--Lutheran religious background--the role of the minister as advisor to grandparents, members at St. Paul's, Missouri Synod
Tape/Side   13/1-A
Time   16:23 to 27:03
Persistent German custom--gardening--Low v. High German--no German spoken after World War I, warned by minister--minister used Bible to encourage patriotism, Reverend Troy--no antagonism from community, played with Irish children
Tape/Side   13/1-A
Time   27:03 to 29:23
Relations between German Lutherans and Irish Catholics in Janesville
Tape/Side   13/1-B
Time   0:00 to 1:15
Relations between earlier and later German immigrants, separate communities
Tape/Side   13/1-B
Time   1:16 to 11:00
Hard work, mother worked in cotton mill--social life, gathering life, soda pop at the tavern--Janesville breweries, ale brewed at Boub's brewery during the summer
Tape/Side   13/1-B
Time   11:01 to 19:45
Elementary school at St. Paul's Lutheran--bilingual education--strict teachers--use of German declined after WW I--H. P. preferred public school--“religion to deal with” at St. Paul's, repetitive and boring--public school offered baseball and football teams
Tape/Side   13/1-B
Time   19:46 to 30:26
Forms of recreation as a youth--good fishing below dam, raking in fish--raking and spearing illegal--water quality good, variety of fish--lax enforcement of game laws--drownings and inexperience
Tape/Side   13/2-A
Time   0:00 to 0:10
Introduction
Tape/Side   13/2-A
Time   0:11 to 1:35
More on recreation
Tape/Side   13/2-A
Time   1:36 to 3:36
Odd jobs for kids--picking fruit at Kellogg Nursery--other jobs
Tape/Side   13/2-A
Time   3:37 to 8:23
Preus family position in community--class awareness--frugality--“high-toned” people getting into a trade as the goal
Tape/Side   13/2-A
Time   8:24 to 11:48
H. P. aspired to be a railroad engineer--got into electrical work through Frank Albright, a family friend--apprenticeship
Tape/Side   13/2-A
Time   11:49 to 15:29
German language newspaper in Janesville, both English and German papers in Preus home--German paper in Janesville stopped publishing around WW I
Tape/Side   13/2-A
Time   15:30 to 28:25
Further comments on apprenticeship--wiring for lights as primary work for apprentice--contractors did not push wall plugs and appliances in early stages of electrical business--machine work--H. P. developed great interest in electricity--rapid changes in electronics--from current to electron theory, H. P. learning about electrons
Tape/Side   13/2-B
Time   0:00 to 2:50
Resistance to electron concept--H. P. attended night school to learn new ideas
Tape/Side   13/2-B
Time   2:51 to 7:30
Hazardous work on utilities--daring behavior, bravado
Tape/Side   13/2-B
Time   7:31 to 14:20
Janesville Electric Company--more on apprentice work--work on Samson Tractor plant--H. P. preferred industrial work--the Samson tractor--the coming of Wisconsin Power and Light
Tape/Side   13/2-B
Time   14:21 to 17:21
Hazards of industrial electrical installation--development of regulations, little enforcement in early years
Tape/Side   13/2-B
Time   17:22 to 22:30
Further comments on Frank Albright--summer as off-season--some workers travelled, union development made that more difficult--Albright as small contractor, later joined union himself
Tape/Side   13/2-B
Time   22:31 to 25:45
H. P.'s early attitudes toward unions--only learned about labor unions by word of mouth, mostly negative comments
Tape/Side   13/2-B
Time   25:46 to 27:00
The strike of 1919 against Janesville Electric--the company hired strikebreakers
1976 August 10
Tape/Side   14/1-A
Time   0:00 to 0:15
Introduction
Tape/Side   14/1-A
Time   0:16 to 9:15
Organization of Local 890 of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers--early members--working conditions were the primary grievances--big contractors unionized--local contractors as anti-union
Tape/Side   14/1-A
Time   9:16 to 12:55
Janesville contractors hostile to union, fired workers who voiced support for unions
Tape/Side   14/1-A
Time   12:56 to 17:05
H. P.'s first contact with the union, asked by Frank Kelly not to work during strike--Kelly later got job at Samson Tractor for H. P.--the boomers, travelling workers with nationwide contacts
Tape/Side   14/1-A
Time   17:06 to 22:00
Union structure, three divisions within the IBEW, none within Local 890--factionalism within the IBEW, little impact on Janesville
Tape/Side   14/1-A
Time   22:01 to 28:25
More on H. P. joining union at age 16--initiation--attitude toward unionism--could still work in open shops--no written contracts--more on Samson Tractor job
Tape/Side   14/1-A
Time   28:26 to 29:34
Absence of safety precautions
Tape/Side   14/1-B
Time   0:00 to 3:10
Improvements in safety--H. P. as a union members
Tape/Side   14/1-B
Time   3:11 to 7:35
Leaders of Local 890--terms of verbal agreements--death benefit for IBEW members
Tape/Side   14/1-B
Time   7:36 to 11:06
Reasons for joining the unions--chance for big jobs, overtime pay--big jobs for H. P.
Tape/Side   14/1-B
Time   11:07 to 11:47
GM annual changeover as big job here
Tape/Side   14/1-B
Time   11:48 to 19:08
The strike of 1919, Janesville Electric used strikebreakers--community reaction--H. P. won nothing from that strike--Emmons, a union man, began an electrical shop as a result of 1919 strike
Tape/Side   14/1-B
Time   19:08 to 26:43
H. P. went back to Albright after strike--other unions in Janesville in 1919, also used only verbal agreements--meetings and activities of the Building Trades Council
Tape/Side   14/1-B
Time   26:44 to 28:30
Early meetings of Local 890--pleas for assistance from other unions
Tape/Side   14/2-A
Time   0:00 to 0:10
Introduction
Tape/Side   14/2-A
Time   0:11 to 3:55
Vague recollections of the Council on Industrial Relations--Allied Pipe Trades
Tape/Side   14/2-A
Time   3:55 to 5:15
Repairing street car motors
Tape/Side   14/2-A
Time   5:16 to 9:46
Local membership during the 1920s--no decline in local membership parallel to national IBEW decline during the 1920s--impact of the Depression--H. P. had steady work then, serviced radios
Tape/Side   14/2-A
Time   9:47 to 18:27
H. P.'s reaction to the 1937 sitdown strike at GM--story about merchant demanding cash--recollection of picketing Ringling Circus--Carl Bunce--arrangements regarding electrical work at GM
Tape/Side   14/2-A
Time   18:28 to 21:50
Reaction to the CIO--problem with UAW members moonlighting on electrical work--UAW seemed down on the AFL to H. P.--strained relations
Tape/Side   14/2-A
Time   21:50 to 29:40
Bill Kuhlow's concern for local building codes, safety concerns, lobbied with the city government to improve them--relations with Henry Traxler--H. P. with few recollections of Janesville politics
Tape/Side   14/2-B
Time   0:00 to 3:42
Early business agents, not reimbursed for time--union couldn't afford a full-time agent
Tape/Side   14/2-B
Time   3:43 to 6:07
H. P. as a member of the apprentice examining board, role of board
Tape/Side   14/2-B
Time   6:08 to 10:53
Impact of Rural Electrification Administration on Local 890--REA used a different method of wiring--most REA work done by open shop workers in Janesville
Tape/Side   14/2-B
Time   10:54 to 14:32
H. P.'s overall attitude toward his union membership--importance of apprentice program and of getting the big jobs
Tape/Side   14/2-B
Time   14:33 to 16:43
Disagreements on contracts--the IBEW pension system