Oral History Interviews of the Janesville Bicentennial Labor Oral History Project, 1976-1977

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Series: Don Dooley
Note: 2134 Mole Avenue, Janesville
1976 July 13
Tape/Side   8/1-A
Time   0:00 to 0:25
Introduction
Tape/Side   8/1-A
Time   0:26 to 3:10
Family background--grandparents of Irish descent--father worked with the Chicago and Northwestern R. R.--family with Janesville background
Tape/Side   8/1-A
Time   3:11 to 5:53
Father was a member of locomotive engineers union, Chicago lodge--dedicated union man
Tape/Side   8/1-A
Time   5:54 to 8:10
Parents as Democrats--Al Smith as a favorite political leader
Tape/Side   8/1-A
Time   8:11 to 10:25
Religious backgrounds--mother more committed than father
Tape/Side   8/1-A
Time   10:27 to 18:44
Parents' residences in Janesville--D. D.'s school experience--“secure childhood”--Grant elementary school--neighborhood friends, including Nick Luchsinger
Tape/Side   8/1-A
Time   18:45 to 20:27
Work experience before Fisher Body--lingerie factory--C & NW
Tape/Side   8/1-A
Time   20:28 to 25:18
Getting a job at Fisher--becoming used to the assembly line--“mankilling jobs”--meaning of “factory broke”
Tape/Side   8/1-A
Time   25:19 to 28:55
Drudgerous work, D. D. often wanted to quit--changing jobs helped--D. D. joined union to improve his life's work
Tape/Side   8/1-B
Time   0:00 to 4:29
Working conditions in paint department--relations with foremen--lack of breaks--“shystering a job”
Tape/Side   8/1-B
Time   4:30 to 7:12
Background of Fisher work force--many from northern Wisconsin--absence of black workers--some workers from Arkansas later
Tape/Side   8/2-A
Time   0:00 to 0:12
Introduction
Tape/Side   8/2-A
Time   0:13 to 4:08
Relationship with foremen prior to 1937--superintendent rough--plant manager
Tape/Side   8/2-A
Time   4:09 to 12:00
Attitudes toward capitalism, bitterness--experience with relief--blamed Hoover and Republicans--questioned system--desperate--class consciousness in 1932, union as a means of striking back
Tape/Side   8/2-A
Time   12:01 to 15:23
Reaction toward national figures--supported La Follettes--John L. Lewis as a hero--critical of AF of L
Tape/Side   8/2-A
Time   15:24 to 17:14
Dooley social life included Les Fay and Abe Shumacher, later fellow union leaders--church not a center of social activity
Tape/Side   8/2-A
Time   17:15 to 21:37
Decision to join union--not a member of earliest cadre--earliest recollections, hard to break through union secrecy
Tape/Side   8/2-A
Time   21:38 to 24:08
Very careful about union talk in plant--D. D. worked across from Les Fay--working conditions in paint spray booth, work before and after shift began
Tape/Side   8/2-A
Time   24:09 to 27:00
Seniority as most crucial need--need to break influence of foremen in rehiring
Tape/Side   8/2-A
Time   27:01 to 28:41
D. D.'s union membership--lapsed for a period prior to 1937 when he perceived that GM had beaten the union
Tape/Side   8/2-B
Time   0:00 to 3:30
D. D. first joined Federal Local 19324--it was ineffective--awareness of craft v. industrial unionism
Tape/Side   8/2-B
Time   3:31 to 7:03
Brief period of inactivity--reaction to Homer Martin of UAW-AFL--craft and industrial unionism at Fisher
Tape/Side   8/2-B
Time   7:04 to 10:20
Union leaders in paint spraying department--Les Fay--anti-union workers--age no factor
Tape/Side   8/2-B
Time   10:21 to 12:35
Experience as the key to unionism, more experienced as more militant--workers from rural areas harder to organize--ethnic or religious background made no difference
Tape/Side   8/2-B
Time   12:36 to 14:08
Three factions regarding unionism, their relative strength
Tape/Side   8/2-B
Time   14:09 to 17:37
Janesville citizens largely hostile to the union--criticism from the business community--use of terms “communistic” and “radical” and “crazy”
Tape/Side   8/2-B
Time   17:38 to 21:06
D. D. knew of no communists in Janesville then--recollection of local political leaders--Henry Traxler as anti-union
Tape/Side   8/2-B
Time   21:07 to 24:07
Churches and the union, little interaction--D. D. knew about Rerum Novarum, the papal encyclical supporting labor unions, but he did not learn about it through church, even though he is Catholic
Tape/Side   8/2-B
Time   24:08 to 27:10
Individual and group decisions to join the union--discharges for union activities
Tape/Side   8/2-B
Time   27:11 to 31:18
Aborted strike of paperhangers in 1935--friend fired--other, similar wildcat strikes
1976 July 20
Tape/Side   10/1-A
Time   0:00 to 0:20
Introduction
Tape/Side   10/1-A
Time   0:21 to 2:58
Recollection of the Civic and Industrial Council, management-oriented group
Tape/Side   10/1-A
Time   2:59 to 6:37
The union and the Janesville Gazette--no coverage of union--information to members by word of mouth--fear of arrest for handing out leaflets
Tape/Side   10/1-A
Time   6:38 to 8:13
The union and the police--no union publications
Tape/Side   10/1-A
Time   8:14 to 9:48
Company spy system
Tape/Side   10/1-A
Time   9:49 to 12:59
“Rumble” for a long time--the trim and cushion departments
Tape/Side   10/1-A
Time   13:00 to 19:42
Work pressure--union meetings, recitation of problems--working conditions in 1936, no fans, heat a problem--union membership and finances--membership grew in 1936
Tape/Side   10/1-A
Time   19:43 to 28:03
Leadership of UAW Local 95--Wes Van Horn--headliner group as militant--Straus Ellis, took care of himself--Waldo Luchsinger--Les Fay, leader in paint department--department as important factor in union membership, also rural-urban factor
Tape/Side   10/1-A
Time   28:04 to 29:24
GM as the real organizer
Tape/Side   10/1-B
Time   0:00 to 2:20
D. D.'s recruiting efforts, risky--D. D. determined to force improvements
Tape/Side   10/1-B
Time   2:21 to 3:35
UAW international communication with local leaders--need for secrecy
Tape/Side   10/1-B
Time   3:36 to 7:46
Development of factionalism in Local 95--Luchsinger and Ellis as “go slow” faction--tension between Van Horn and Lou Adkins--D. D. closer to Van Horn
Tape/Side   10/1-B
Time   7:47 to 12:12
Meetings as source of encouragement--taverns as meeting places, especially Beyer's Tavern under union meeting hall
Tape/Side   10/1-B
Time   12:13 to 16:25
Unaware of lodge connections--planning for the sitdown strike, handful involved--Adkins, Van Horn, Fay, Jack Johnston--decision to sit down as local--small membership then--some departments strong, some weak
Tape/Side   10/1-B
Time   16:26 to 17:26
Company union--formation of GM Alliance
Tape/Side   10/1-B
Time   17:27 to 21:35
D. D. and the sitdown--made decision to sitdown earlier, told wife--walking up and down lines during the sitdown--marching around, no sitting during early stages
Tape/Side   10/1-B
Time   21:36 to 26:31
Further recollections of sitdown, Jan. 5, 1937--lines shut down rapidly--fear for jobs--many waited to see
Tape/Side   10/1-B
Time   26:32 to 28:32
Participation in march around plant as test of support for sitdown--reaction of foremen
Tape/Side   10/1-B
Time   28:33 to 29:33
Emotions of strikers--D. D.'s commitment
Tape/Side   10/2-A
Time   0:00 to 0:12
Introduction
Tape/Side   10/2-A
Time   0:13 to 3:05
Moods of workers during the sitdown--belligerency--slurs toward non-strikers--determination
Tape/Side   10/2-A
Time   3:06 to 5:12
No physical violence--reaction of city officials--agreement to evacuate plant--meeting at union hall
Tape/Side   10/2-A
Time   5:13 to 6:33
No concern about legality of sitdown
Tape/Side   10/2-A
Time   6:34 to 11:48
Community reaction to strike--little sympathy, frequent remarks against strike--little concern for public opinion
Tape/Side   10/2-A
Time   11:49 to 14:19
Recollection of the GM Alliance--attempts to break up Alliance meetings
Tape/Side   10/2-A
Time   14:20 to 15:45
After the sitdown, celebration--rumors around town
Tape/Side   10/2-A
Time   15:46 to 19:56
Wife's attitude toward sitdown and union--her attitudes softened eventually
Tape/Side   10/2-A
Time   19:57 to 21:12
Activities in Janesville during strike
Tape/Side   10/2-A
Time   21:13 to 22:28
Newspaper handling of the 1937 strike--no other sources of news
Tape/Side   10/2-A
Time   22:29 to 27:29
Incidents during the strike--skirmishes--“forceful persuasion”--Alliance buttons--Clyde Arihood--leaders did not discourage skirmishes
Tape/Side   10/2-A
Time   27:30 to 29:10
After the strike in the plant, steward system
Tape/Side   10/2-B
Time   0:00 to 4:05
Membership increases--wildcat strike, almost every day, centered in trim and cushion departments
Tape/Side   10/2-B
Time   4:06 to 6:36
Situation in the body shop, tough superintendent--D. D. lost contact in 1938, daughter ill
Tape/Side   10/2-B
Time   6:37 to 9:55
D. D.'s experience as shop steward--no grievance procedure then
Tape/Side   10/2-B
Time   9:56 to 15:06
Stable leadership after sitdown--leadership in Local 95 after the strike
Tape/Side   10/2-B
Time   15:07 to 18:00
D. D.'s experience as committeeman
Tape/Side   10/2-B
Time   18:01 to 24:45
Union involvement in local politics--D. D. ran for city council--Abe Shumacher ran for school board--many union members not living in Janesville--role of the local press--Waldo Luchsinger on city council--importance of union involvement in politics
1976 July 27
Tape/Side   11/1-A
Time   0:00 to 0:20
Introduction
Tape/Side   11/1-A
Time   0:21 to 4:05
D. D.'s work during World War II--Buick motor assembly in Melrose Park, Illinois--problem with unequal pay
Tape/Side   11/1-A
Time   4:06 to 6:16
Return to Janesville to make shells, workers hired back from seniority lists
Tape/Side   11/1-A
Time   6:17 to 10:42
D. D.'s return to union activities, vice president during war years
Tape/Side   11/1-A
Time   10:43 to 14:37
The UAW strike against GM in 1945-46, called during period of conversion from making shells to autos--small work force then
Tape/Side   11/1-A
Time   14:37 to 15:27
D. D.'s reaction to Walter Reuther
Tape/Side   11/1-A
Time   15:28 to 17:20
Labor-management relations no better after the war--smoking privilige from government during the war
Tape/Side   11/1-A
Time   17:21 to 23136
Reasons for striking GM in 1945-46--D. D.'s attitude toward 1946 contract--no regrets about 1945-46 strike
Tape/Side   11/1-A
Time   23:37 to 30:42
Good coordination between Locals 95 and 121--D. D.'s support for amalgamation--maintaining soup kitchen, help from local merchants--skirmishes in 1946--problem with building contractor crossing picket lines
Tape/Side   11/1-B
Time   0:00 to 3:20
Support from members during 1945-46 strike, even those out of work--survival during long strike
Tape/Side   11/1-B
Time   3:21 to 8:10
D. D. as Local 95 president--election to establish union shop at Fisher, hands-off company reaction
Tape/Side   11/1-B
Time   8:10 to 13:35
Persistent problems during D. D.'s term--no opposition--satisfaction from service
Tape/Side   11/1-B
Time   13:36 to 20:26
Problems at beginning of the second shift--no communications between shifts--efforts to amalgamate 95 and 121
Tape/Side   11/1-B
Time   20:27 to 23:37
Only factionalism related to second shift problems--1952 as crucial year--D. D.'s efforts to diminish factionalism
Tape/Side   11/1-B
Time   23:38 to 26:38
D. D.'s efforts to maintain consensus, togetherness--relied on Les Fay for advice--Abe Shumacher as financial secretary
Tape/Side   11/2-A
Time   0:00 to 0:10
Introduction
Tape/Side   11/2-A
Time   0:11 to 3:40
Others on whom D. D. relied, Bruce Warren, Jack Johnston, Lou Adkins--need for united leadership--relationship with Lou Adkins
Tape/Side   11/2-A
Time   3:41 to 6:55
Stepping down as president--need for young leadership
Tape/Side   11/2-A
Time   6:56 to 9:10
Business operation of Local 95, office help--role of the financial secretary
Tape/Side   11/2-A
Time   9:10 to 16:35
Survey of Local 95 leadership--information on John Goetzinger, Dick Halford, Les Fay, Jack Johnston, Stan Gregory
Tape/Side   11/2-A
Time   16:36 to 24:56
Information on Lou Adkins, Charles Rosenthal, Wes Van Horn, Abe Shumacher, Cleo Keele
Tape/Side   11/2-A
Time   24:57 to 29:32
Information on Walt Trachsel, Bruce Warren, Don Fraser