Oral History Interviews of the Janesville Bicentennial Labor Oral History Project, 1976-1977

Container Title
Series: Harry Johnson
Note: 1410 Josephine Street, Janesville
1976 July 29
Tape/Side   12/1-A
Time   0:00 to 0:20
Introduction
Tape/Side   12/1-A
Time   0:21 to 6:25
Family background near Sparta, Wisconsin--father from Norway--farming and logging--H. J. as workers on Chicago and Northwestern R. R.--mother's background
Tape/Side   12/1-A
Time   6:26 to 7:48
Family religious background--mother as 7th Day Adventist--father Norwegian Lutheran
Tape/Side   12/1-A
Time   7:49 to 10:14
Father comes to America--family political background
Tape/Side   12/1-A
Time   10:15 to 15:07
Elementary education--two years of high school--no knowledge of unions, fellow workers scabbing--loggers unorganized
Tape/Side   12/1-A
Time   15:08 to 17:58
Family “never had very much”--move from Sparta to Janesville to work at Chevrolet
Tape/Side   12/1-A
Time   17:51 to 29:10
Early attempt at farming--H. J. worked with the C. & N. W. R. R., line work--member then of the AFL Maintenance Away Union, recalls attending meeting, but not a very active member
Tape/Side   12/1-B
Time   0:00 to 4:00
Patrolling the track--H. J. saw no future in railroad work--little class awareness
Tape/Side   12/1-B
Time   4:01 to 6:06
Chevrolet in 1923--H. J.'s first work, body drop--plant closed during 1933
Tape/Side   12/1-B
Time   6:07 to 7:22
Reaction against inside plant work
Tape/Side   12/1-B
Time   7:23 to 10:13
Nature of work force in 1920s--many from west central Wisconsin, most off the farm--came to Janesville for jobs at Chevrolet
Tape/Side   12/1-B
Time   10:14 to 13:32
Pay at Chevrolet--piece work pay system, hard to figure wages
Tape/Side   12/1-B
Time   13:33 to 18:13
Working conditions at Chevrolet, smoke and heat--problem with open windows--conditions good in drop area--health hazards in many areas--paint department
Tape/Side   12/1-B
Time   18:14 to 21:39
More on body drop area--union members from body drop area, no talk of unions until 1933--many workers in this area off the farm
Tape/Side   12/1-B
Time   21:40 to 23:40
Positive relations with foremen and supervisors
Tape/Side   12/1-B
Time   23:41 to 26:20
Reaction to national political and labor leaders--FDR, the La Follettes, Herbert Hoover, Bill Green of the AFL
Tape/Side   12/2-A
Time   0:000 to 0:10
Introduction
Tape/Side   12/2-A
Time   0:11 to 2:41
Reaction to capitalism, slight--old Sparta friends as Janesville friends
Tape/Side   12/2-A
Time   2:42 to 7:32
H. J. as a conscientious worker--problems of other workers on the Chevy line--no relief--H. J.'s attitude toward GM
Tape/Side   12/2-A
Time   7:33 to 11:43
The speed up--control of the rheostat--speed up caused union--model changeover--short days--difficult times
Tape/Side   12/2-A
Time   11:44 to 13:36
The frame gang periodically refused to work before the union was organized--lack of relief--clothing
Tape/Side   12/2-A
Time   13:37 to 18:57
Influence of H. J.'s brother, Howard, on the Fisher side--Fisher organized first--H. J. as first union man on the Chevy side--part of national effort
Tape/Side   12/2-A
Time   18:58 to 20:48
AFL federal union as first GM union in Janesville
Tape/Side   12/2-A
Time   20:49 to 25:34
H. J. worked with GM exhibit at 1933 World's Fair in Chicago--positive experience
Tape/Side   12/2-A
Time   25:35 to 29:45
H. J. joins the union--recruiting other members--working conditions most important, especially the speed-up
Tape/Side   12/2-B
Time   0:00 to 3:45
Maintenance department as hardest to organize, no speed-up there--anti-union workers--influence of wives
Tape/Side   12/2-B
Time   3:46 to 5:08
Joining the AFL union
Tape/Side   12/2-B
Time   5:09 to 9:09
Organizer named Dillon--need for education--fear among workers
Tape/Side   12/2-B
Time   9:10 to 22:00
H. J. fired for organizing activities--successful appeal to the Wolman Board, nature of the Board--surviving with no job--others fired at the same time, all reinstated--H. J. continued union efforts, more determined--firings as a setback to organizing efforts until H. J. was reinstated, then an influx of new members
Tape/Side   12/2-B
Time   22:01 to 22:50
Establishing separate locals for Fisher and Chevrolet
Tape/Side   12/2-B
Time   22:51 to 25:51
No bitterness toward GM--key organizers on Chevrolet side, Mark Egbert, Elmer Yenney, John Donagan
Tape/Side   12/2-B
Time   25:51 to 27:31
Learning about the union--speakers--the role of the organizers
1976 November 11
Tape/Side   31/1-A
Time   0:00 to 0:25
Introduction
Tape/Side   31/1-A
Time   0:26 to 4:21
Community reaction to the UAW, mostly negative--some school teachers supported the union--business reaction to UAW
Tape/Side   31/1-A
Time   4:22 to 5:52
Union members as diverse group
Tape/Side   31/1-A
Time   5:52 to 8:57
Sources of information regarding the UAW and unionism--reliance on Elmer Yenney, president of Local 121--independent labor newsletter in Janesville
Tape/Side   31/1-A
Time   8:58 to 13:38
Planning the sitdown strike of 1937--key people--unanimity on executive boards
Tape/Side   31/1-A
Time   13:39 to 18:29
Congregating at body drop area on sitdown day--H. J. assembled commercial truck bodies then--support for the sitdown
Tape/Side   31/1-A
Time   18:30 to 21:15
Shutting down maintenance in the Old Foundry, last group to stop work in the Chevrolet plant
Tape/Side   31/1-A
Time   21:16 to 24:28
Membership at time of the sitdown in 1937 (H. J. was financial secretary)--small percentage of work force as members, membership fluctuated
Tape/Side   31/1-A
Time   24:28 to 29:18
Boom in Local 121 membership immediately after strike--attitudes of new members--Local 121's recruiters
Tape/Side   31/1-B
Time   0:00 to 8:50
New members as reluctant, justifiable fears--attitudes of early members toward new members--no particular groups' represented by new members
Tape/Side   31/1-B
Time   8:51 to 9:15
Wildcat strikes, not a major concern
Tape/Side   31/1-B
Time   9:16 to 15:50
Financial status of Local 121 in 1937--sufficient money for travel and other needs--Janesville locals very frugal--open with financial and membership records--Jimmy Hall as an informer
Tape/Side   31/1-B
Time   15:51 to 17:20
The Harold Lewis case--Lewis furnished information to management
Tape/Side   31/1-B
Time   17:21 to 20:30
Jeanne Rimley as secretary to Local 121--H. J. observed her hiring--very efficient secretary
Tape/Side   31/1-B
Time   20:31 to 21:40
Compensation for H. J.'s work, instigated by Jimmy Hill, H. J. suspicious of his motives
Tape/Side   31/1-B
Time   21:41 to 22:36
Little recollection of “button day”
Tape/Side   31/1-B
Time   22:37 to 25:22
Transition from the AFL to CIO--support for AFL's Homer Martin--Elmer Yenney eventually recommended the change
Tape/Side   31/2-A
Time   0:00 to 0:10
Introduction
Tape/Side   31/2-A
Time   0:11 to 4:11
Relations with the international office--H. J. at 1937 UAW convention in Milwaukee--not persuaded by Reuthers at that time
Tape/Side   31/2-A
Time   4:12 to 5:17
H. J.'s work during World War II
Tape/Side   31/2-A
Time   5:18 to 7:43
Reaction to absence of black workers at Chevrolet--hiring as management prerogative, no involvement by union
Tape/Side   31/2-A
Time   7:44 to 10:39
H. J.'s service on Janesville City Council, urged to run by Mark Egbert--accepted by business slating group--H. J. tried to serve entire city--most council decisions by consensus
Tape/Side   31/2-A
Time   10:40 to 14:25
Problem of dogs running loose--problem of beer license for bowling alley which served UAW bowlers
Tape/Side   31/2-A
Time   14:26 to 16:41
Term as city council president
Tape/Side   31/2-A
Time   16:42 to 17:22
Closing statement