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Audio 703A\1
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00:00
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Introduction
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00:33
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Kinnett Introduction, continued : Dave Kinnett introduces himself and asks if Alice Smith has seen the prepared questions.
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00:53
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Deafness : Dave Kinnett asks about Dr. Kellogg's deafness.
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01:06
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Deafness, continued : Alice Smith explains that she only knew Dr. Kellogg during the last twelve years of Dr. Kellogg's life, but that Kellogg's hearing problem had been with her for many years before that. Alice Smith describes Dr. Kellogg's hearing aid and her first encounter with Kellogg.
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02:38
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Deafness, continued : Alice Smith mentions that Dr. Kellogg's father also had a hearing disability.
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03:05
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Alice Smith's Background : Dave Kinnett asks about Alice Smith's position and responsibilities in the Historical Society.
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03:17
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Alice Smith's Background, continued : Alice Smith explains that she was placed in charge of the Society's manuscript collections and mentions Dr. Schafer's instructions to her. Alice Smith goes on to say that she succeeded Edna Jacobsen who had been involved with both manuscripts and editorial work. At about the same time Lillian Krueger was placed in charge of editorial work.
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04:24
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Smith and Kellogg's Deafness : Alice Smith explains that because of her deafness Dr. Kellogg could never have managed the manuscripts department.
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04:36
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Kellogg's Editorial Work : Alice Smith says that Dr. Kellogg was involved in editorial work, mostly research and writing and that as far as she knows Dr. Kellogg never had any administrative responsibility.
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05:26
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Kellogg's appearance and habits : Alice Smith remembers that Dr. Kellogg appeared stooped and bent over, though she was rather tall.
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05:36
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Kellogg's appearance and habits, continued : Miss Smith says that Dr. Kellogg slept a great deal and that the habit may have been due to a physical disability. Miss Smith reminisces about Dr. Kellogg's napping at work.
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06:15
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Dr. Kellogg's appearance and habits, continued : Alice Smith is asked about the relationship between Dr. Kellogg and Miss Nunns, the Society's Assistant Superintendent. Alice Smith says that the two were not friends.
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06:40
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Dr. Kellogg's appearance and habits, continued : As to habits of dress, Alice Smith says that Dr. Kellogg was not a fashionable dresser, but was sensitive about clothes.
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07:02
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Dr. Kellogg's appearance and habits, continued : Miss Smith says that Dr. Kellogg did not have much sense of humor.
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07:15
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Dr. Kellogg's appearance and habits, continued : Miss Smith mentions that Dr. Kellogg occasionally wore her hat during office hours and offers several possible explanations.
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08:15
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Dr. Kellogg's Work : Alice Smith is asked about Dr. Kellogg's unpublished history of Wisconsin. She says that she only vaguely recalls the manuscript and does not know much about it.
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08:57
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Dr. Kellogg's Work, continued : Miss Smith is asked for her opinions of Dr. Kellogg's major books The French Regime in Wisconsin and The British Regime in Wisconsin and the Old Northwest.
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09:10
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Dr. Kellogg's Work, continued : Alice Smith says that she thinks the French Regime was very good and that she studied it carefully in researching her own first volume in the multi-volume history of Wisconsin. She says that she thought Kellogg's British Regime, was far inferior to the French Regime.
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09:58
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Dr. Kellogg's Work, continued : Alice Smith recalls a controversy concerning Milo Quaife's review of Kellogg's British Regime for the Mississippi Valley Historical Review.
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11:35
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Dr. Kellogg's Work, continued : Miss Smith is asked about Dr. Kellogg's ambition to become a professor but says she knew nothing about it.
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11:55
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Dr. Kellogg's Work, continued : Miss Smith is questioned about any complaints or grievances Dr. Kellogg may have had with the Historical Society. Miss Smith says that there were many complaints about the Historical Society. She recalls the financial troubles of the institution and its staff arising from the Depression of the 1930's; the lack of any pension program, the necessary pay cuts and low salaries. She says she thinks Dr. Kellogg and Kellogg's friend Mrs. Fish were in financial straits.
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13:32
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Mrs. Fish : Alice Smith's opinions of Mrs. Fish are brought out. She recalls Mrs. Fish's personality and character and her musical activities.
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14:40
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Mrs. Fish, continued : Miss Smith goes on to explain that Dr. Kellogg admired Mrs. Fish and gives possible reasons.
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16:40
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Kellogg and Colleagues : Alice Smith is asked if Dr. Kellogg's work was fully appreciated by other staff members of the Historical Society. Miss Smith says she doubts that the other staff members of the Society appreciated Dr. Kellogg's scholarship. She says that Dr. Kellogg was dominated by Miss Nunns and that staff members probably tended to respect the figures who command authority. She says Miss Nunns was determined to remain the Society's head of operations. She suggests that Miss Nunns may have been jealous of Dr. Kellogg's accomplishments.
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17:42
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More on Dr. Kellogg's Work : Miss Smith is asked about the great volume of Dr. Kellogg's writing and whether or not the Society encouraged Kellogg in her writing. Miss Smith says that research and writing were regarded as Dr. Kellogg's job and that was what she was expected to do. She adds that Dr. Kellogg wrote quickly and easily.
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18:18
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Public Speaking : Alice Smith recalls Dr. Kellogg as a public speaker. She says that she only heard Dr. Kellogg speak before small groups because during the depression years she could not afford to go to the distant historical meetings. She adds that Dr. Kellogg was a popular speaker with a good voice.
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19:38
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Kellogg's Admirers : Alice Smith recalls that Dr. Kellogg had a circle of admirers, mostly women, from around the state and Kellogg enjoyed the adulation. She suggests that Dr. Kellogg may have valued the admirers because of her deafness and loneliness.
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20:52
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Advising Researchers : Miss Smith stresses the work that Dr. Kellogg did in advising researchers but re-emphasizes that though Dr. Kellogg's desk was in the manuscripts room she had no responsibility for the Manuscripts Department of the Society.
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22:16
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Smith and Kellogg Relationship : Miss Smith says that her connections with Dr. Kellogg were largely professional rather than social.
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