Eugene and Peggy Dennis Papers, 1923-1982

Summary Information
Title: Eugene and Peggy Dennis Papers
Inclusive Dates: 1923-1982

  • Dennis, Eugene
  • Dennis, Peggy
Call Number: Mss 607; Micro 975; Tape 1048A

Quantity: 5.4 c.f. (10 archives boxes, 1 flat box, 3 card file boxes), 12 reels of microfilm (35mm), and 5 tape recordings

Archival Locations:
Wisconsin Historical Society (Map)

Papers of lifelong activists in the Communist Party, USA. Eugene Dennis was general secretary of the Party from 1946 to 1959. He died in 1961. Peggy Dennis' Party work centered on teaching and writing. She left the Party in 1976 but continued her political writing. The collection consists of correspondence, articles, unpublished writings, research notes, and tape recordings. About half of the collection is research material collected by Peggy Dennis for her book The Autobiography of an American Communist. Those papers relate to the couple's organizing activities in southern California, China, Wisconsin, and New York, and the internal strife and government repression which the Dennises and the Party experienced in the 1940s and 1950s. The remainder of the collection consists of correspondence and writings which document Peggy Dennis' independent political action and her journalistic work on a variety of social issues. Numerous items pertain to the viability of the American Communist Party and to the status of women.


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Language: English

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Eugene Dennis (born Francis X. Waldron), general secretary of the Communist Party, USA from 1946 to 1959 and lifelong Party activist, was born into a working class family in Seattle, on August 10, 1904. In 1917 he began summer work as a lumberman, eventually joining the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) and participating in the Seattle general strike of 1919. Dennis' experience in the IWW, his stepmother's humanist influences, the Russian Revolution, and his political reading all radicalized him early in life. He attended the University of Washington for six months in 1925, but dropped out to support his family as a teamster, carpenter, and electrical worker. He joined the American Federation of Labor Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. While caring for his ill stepmother, Dennis contracted tuberculosis, the effects of which he suffered for the rest of his life.

In 1926 Dennis joined the Communist Party. Within the year he was named educational director for Southern California and moved there with his stepmother. In 1928 he taught at a Young Communist League school in Washington State. There he met Peggy, a student at the school. In 1928 they lived in Los Angeles where Dennis worked as a longshoreman, an electrical worker, a trucker, and an ironworker. During this period he was often arrested for organizing maritime workers and Japanese and Mexican agricultural workers. In 1929, in San Francisco, he edited and wrote for The Far Eastern Monthly, later The Pan Pacific Monthly, a small magazine which supported anti-imperialist and Communist activities in eastern Asia. Returning to Los Angeles in 1929, Dennis worked as an organizer for the Trade Union Educational League, which became the Trade Union Unity League later that year. Dennis helped establish branches of the Marine Workers Industrial Union and Unemployed Councils in both San Francisco and Los Angeles.

Eugene Dennis was one of over 100 union leaders and supporters arrested several times in California in 1930 for violation of a state law against “criminal syndication.” His offenses were leading a demonstration against unemployment and organizing agricultural strikes in the Imperial Valley. As instructed by Communist Party leaders, Dennis, facing a possible forty year sentence, jumped bail and traveled to Moscow, where he worked at the Communist International. During 1933 and 1934 he traveled to South Africa, China, and the Philippines, organizing for national liberation movements.

Dennis returned to the United States in 1935. He became Wisconsin state leader for the Party, adopting the name Eugene Dennis. There he developed democratic front coalitions with portions of the Socialist and Progressive Parties, Farmer-Labor organization, and liberal Democrats and Republicans. Dennis also helped organize the first Congress of Industrial Organizations' Industrial Councils and developed a united front to support Loyalist Spain. In 1936, he was elected to the Party's National Committee. Dennis left Wisconsin for Moscow in 1937 on Party orders. He returned in 1938 to become a member of the Secretariat of the National Committee, working at Party headquarters in New York. From 1938 until 1946, when he was elected General Secretary, Dennis concentrated his efforts on legislative and electoral work, promoting the united front concept.

As government suppression of Communists increased after World War II, Dennis spent more time publicizing the relevance of the violation of the Communists' basic constitutional rights to the state of freedom in America for all Americans. In 1947 he was subpoenaed by the House Un-American Activities Committee. Refusing to cooperate, he was indicted for contempt of Congress. In 1948, while his appeal of this charge was still pending, Dennis was arrested with eleven other Communist leaders for violation of the Smith Act (actually a section of the Alien Registration Act of 1940). He served a one-year sentence for the contempt conviction in 1950. In 1951 he began serving a five-year sentence for the Smith Act conviction: conspiracy to teach and advocate the violent overthrow of the government and also membership in an organization that teaches and advocates such forcible overthrow. While in prison from 1951 to 1955, Dennis continued to write on political affairs.

With the release of the Smith Act defendants, the Communist Party emerged from the underground in 1955 into a factional dispute that lasted four years. Eugene Dennis stood for a middle course, warning against both the dogmatism of William Z. Foster and the revisionism of John Gates. These conflicting ideologies caused the Party great internal strife. In the middle of a bitter factional dispute at the seventeenth National Convention in 1959 Dennis suffered a mild stroke and was replaced by Gus Hall as General Secretary. Dennis was named National Chairman. From 1955 Dennis worked for the survival and unity of the Communist Party, stressing such issues as First Amendment rights, peaceful coexistence with the Soviet Union, and the struggle for the rights of blacks. He died in January 1961 after an eight-month struggle with cancer.

Peggy Dennis was born Regina Karasick in New York in 1909 to recently emigrated Jewish Russian revolutionaries. The family moved to Los Angeles in 1912 where Peggy was raised in a “...self contained, foreign born, radical community.” She was in the Socialist children's movement at age six, joined a Communist children's group at thirteen, and then the Young Communist League and Communist Party at sixteen. Peggy Dennis met Eugene Dennis at a Young Communist League school in 1928. She joined him in Seattle in September that year. The couple moved to Los Angeles in 1929. There she bore their first son, Tim, and continued with her political organizational and educational activity.

In 1931 she joined Eugene Dennis in Moscow. When he left to organize abroad, Peggy Dennis worked as a social studies teacher at the Anglo-American school for children of foreign workers and as a researcher at the Profintern (Red International of Labor Unions), and attended the International Lenin School. She traveled through Europe in 1933 and 1934, assisting European Communist movements and African and Asian activists in exile in Europe.

In 1934 Peggy and Eugene returned to the United States and moved together to Wisconsin. There she adopted the name Peggy Dennis. She was elected to the state committee and the state board, was designated state education director, and became chairperson of the Party's Milwaukee County committee. In 1937 the Dennises were sent by the Party to Moscow. In 1938, upon Eugene's entry into the Party's national leadership, they moved to New York. They worked in New York and Washington; Peggy assisted Eugene in his position as secretary for politics and legislative affairs, and worked on a Party journal concerned with national legislative issues.

Peggy accompanied Eugene to Moscow in 1941 when he was selected for work at the Comintern. At the invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, Gene returned to the United States. Peggy remained during the first four and one-half months, until the seige of Moscow. She returned to the United States in the same year and gave birth to their second son, Gene, in 1942. When Eugene was convicted of contempt of Congress and imprisoned for Smith Act violations in the late 1940s, Peggy covered the issues for the Daily Worker and spoke throughout the country against political repression. She edited the women's page in The Sunday Worker from 1950 to 1951. In 1951 she helped organize and became chairperson of The Families of the Smith Act Victims Committee, an organization designed to aid families of persons prosecuted under the Smith Act. She also was active in the National Committee for Amnesty to Smith Act Victims. This organization held meetings and conferences, and petitioned with the purpose of obtaining unconditional amnesty for persons prosecuted under the Smith Act. In 1955, Peggy edited and wrote the introduction to a book of annotated letters which Eugene wrote during his prison term, Letters From Prison.

Upon Eugene's death in 1961 Peggy moved to San Francisco and worked until 1967 as foreign editor for the Party's west coast weekly, The People's World. In 1965 she toured Eastern Europe as a Party journalist. In the late 1960s Peggy grew increasingly disenchanted with the inflexible policies and sexism of the Communist Party. She resigned from the Party in 1976. The following year her book The Autobiography of an American Communist: A Personal View of a Political Life was published. Peggy Dennis died September 25, 1993.

Scope and Content Note

The papers of Eugene and Peggy Dennis document thirty-three years of the couple's political work together as Communist Party activists, and, after the death of Eugene Dennis in 1961, over twenty years of Peggy Dennis's own political activities. The collection consists of correspondence, newspaper and periodical articles, unpublished writings, research notes, and tape recordings.

About half of the collection consists of correspondence, articles, unpublished writings, and notes relating to the couple's organizing activities in this country and abroad from 1925 to 1961. Peggy Dennis used this material to write The Autobiography of an American Communist.

The remaining half of the collection dates from the 1960s and 1970s, and consists of writings by Peggy Dennis and others, Peggy Dennis' business and personal correspondence, a small amount of material arranged by subject, notes, and two high school autograph/scrapbooks. Her papers include literature and notes from a 1965 trip through eastern Europe and articles about anti-Semitism and Soviet dissent. Peggy Dennis' personal correspondence with individuals around the country reveals her perspectives on the Party and social movements. The collection contains numerous writings on women and feminism by Peggy Dennis and others.

The collection is organized in six series. The BIOGRAPHY series consists of two folders, one containing two of Peggy Dennis' high school autograph/scrapbooks, and some material relating to her early political activity. The other file contains articles and forms which briefly review her life.

Although correspondence is scattered throughout the collection, the main body of correspondence is filed in a CORRESPONDENCE series, divided into two parts, Eugene and Peggy Dennis Correspondence, and Peggy Dennis Correspondence. The correspondence between Eugene and Peggy Dennis are letters exchanged between the Dennises during Eugene's prison term. The Peggy Dennis correspondence is divided into Business and Personal subseries and is arranged chronologically within each. Correspondence which contains both personal and business information is filed in the Personal subseries, as is correspondence with Communist Party officials. The Business correspondence primarily concerns Peggy Dennis' publishing endeavors. Letters to editors are included in the Writings series.

The major portion of the WRITINGS series consists of Peggy Dennis' research materials for The Autobiography of an American Communist. This material has been kept in chronological order, as established by Peggy Dennis. The dates assigned to the folders correspond to the time period associated with the subject, however, recent correspondence and other material about the subject area also is found here. Many writings by Eugene Dennis are included in this section, filed by date. His advocacy of coalitions among progressive organizations and his resistance to sectarianism within the Communist Party are well documented here.

Box 3, folder 4 contains material on the years the Dennises lived in Wisconsin, particularly the activities of Communists in the rank-and-file movement which helped form the Congress of Industrial Organizations in the 1930s. This was also the period when the Communist Party experimented with the United Front, a coalition of organizations on the Left working together to oppose fascism and to sustain the gains of the New Deal. One can trace the evolution of Dennis's support for the Farmer-Labor-Progressive Federation and his critiques of the state Progressive Party and the Socialist Party of Milwaukee. Included in this folder is an unpublished manuscript compiling a number of major articles written by Eugene Dennis on the United Front, with introductory comments by Peggy Dennis.

Box 4, folders 3, 4, and 5 contain clippings, trial transcripts, personal notes, and personal correspondence on the 1949 trial and conviction of Eugene Dennis and ten colleagues under the Smith Act. Folder 5 contains a handwritten legal brief composed for the Party's attorneys by Dennis while in the Atlanta federal prison. It outlines the political and constitutional arguments against the McCarran Act, which threatened the Party's legality at that time. Other notes written in prison comment on the U.S. penal system.

Articles, personal notes, and letters in boxes 3-9 provide a base for analysis of the internal difficulties within the Communist Party after its leaders emerged from prison and from the underground. During this period Communist leaders sought to rebuild the Party in light of Khrushchev's 1956 denunciations of Stalinist era crimes. Material from the 1940's and 1950's also deals with the status of Blacks and the Cold War atmosphere.

The Notes in the WRITINGS series, box 6, folder 7 and boxes 7, 8 and 9, cover topics such as organizing in California and Wisconsin, the status of minorities, China, the Soviet Union, the Smith Act trial of 1949, McCarthyism, and inner Party politics. The Note Cards (boxes 7, 8, and 9) are divided by subject and arranged roughly chronologically thereunder, as arranged by Peggy Dennis. Also included in the WRITINGS series are newspaper and periodical articles, unpublished manuscripts, research notes and correspondence. Writings by Peggy Dennis and others which are related are filed with Peggy Dennis' writings. Some biographical material on Eugene Dennis can be found in box 6, folder 6.

The RESEARCH FILE series is arranged in two parts. The chronological section consists of published writings on a wide range of political and social issues by numerous authors, among others, Gus Hall, Irwin Silber, and Michael Harrington. It also contains correspondence, writings, and notes, arranged chronologically on specific topics. The subject portion of this series includes runs of Party Affairs and material about Al Richmond and Dorothy Healey's resignations from the Communist Party. Writings and notes in the file entitled “Peggy Dennis' Trip to Eastern Europe” are arranged by country in the following sequence: the U.S.S.R., the G.D.R., Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Yugoslavia.

The TAPE RECORDINGS consist of five cassettes recorded in 1977 and 1978. No. 1 is a talk and question-and-answer session on the status of women in the Communist Party, given by Peggy Dennis to students in the women's studies program at the University of California at Los Angeles. Nos. 2 and 3 are the radio show “California Hard Times”, aired on radio station KPFA as part of the Berkeley Radical Oral History Project. On the tape, seven radicals active since the 1930s, Lorraine Ballard, Peggy Dennis, Ed Robbins, Marcela Stack, Archie Brown, Rose DeLarma, and Al Richmond, discuss activism on the west coast during the Depression. Bruce Kaiper acted as moderator. No. 2 covers the organization of agricultural and maritime workers, the Upton Sinclair Movement and the End Poverty in California Program. Discussion on No. 3 centers on Dust Bowl migration and the Tom Mooney case. Nos. 4 and 5 are an interview with Jessica Mitford and Peggy Dennis, aired on KSAN in San Francisco. A question-and-answer period ends the tape which terminates before the session actually concludes. Topics covered include the organization of agricultural workers in Southern California in the 1930s, Eugene Dennis, the Truman loyalty oath, life in the USSR, and why people left the Communist Party.


This collection is available both in paper form and on microfilm. The master negative of Reel 1 was water damaged. A copy negative is available at call number Micro 486.

Administrative/Restriction Information
Use Restrictions

Eugene Dennis Vrana holds all literary rights to the contents of the collection. His written permission is required by anyone seeking to publish or quote at length from any of the unpublished personal materials in the collection. After his lifetime, these rights and controls shall revert to the State Historical Society of Wisconsin.

Acquisition Information

Presented by Peggy Dennis, Berkeley, California, 1981. Accession Number: M81-614

Processing Information

Processed by Christian Frazza, January 1984.

Contents List
Mss 607/Micro 975
Series: Biography
Peggy Dennis
Box/Folder   1/1
Reel/Frame   1/0001
General Biographical Material, 1981, undated
Box/Folder   1/2
Reel   1
High School Autograph Scrapbooks, 1923-1925
Note: Folder 2 of Box 1 appears at the beginning of microfilm Reel 1 without frame numbers.
Eugene Dennis, see Box 6, folder 6
Series: Correspondence
Eugene and Peggy Dennis
Box/Folder   1/3
Reel/Frame   1/0119
Box/Folder   1/4
Reel/Frame   1/0004
Transcripts, 1951-1952
Peggy Dennis
Box/Folder   1/5
Reel/Frame   1/0259
1969-1981, undated
Box/Folder   1/6
Reel/Frame   1/0390
1979-1981, undated
Box/Folder   1/7
Reel/Frame   1/0530
The Nation, 1973-1976
Box/Folder   1/8
Reel/Frame   1/0551
The Pacific Sun, 1975-1976, undated
Box/Folder   1/9
Reel/Frame   1/0595
The Progressive, 1973-1976
Box/Folder   1/10
Reel/Frame   1/0647
Note: Frames 1117-1119 should follow frame 701.
Box/Folder   2/1
Reel/Frame   1/0883
1977-1981, undated
Box/Folder   2/2
Reel/Frame   2/0001
Responses to Resignation Letter, 1976
Series: Writings
Box/Folder   2/3
Reel/Frame   2/0116
Eugene Dennis, 1937-1951, undated
Peggy Dennis
Box/Folder   2/4
Reel/Frame   2/0188
Box/Folder   2/5
Reel/Frame   2/0376
Box/Folder   2/6
Reel/Frame   2/0529
Box/Folder   3/1
Reel/Frame   2/0785
The Autobiography of an American Communist
Research Material
Box/Folder   3/2
Reel/Frame   2/0963
1929-1930, Imperial Valley, California
Box/Folder   3/3
Reel/Frame   2/1024
1930-1934, China
Box/Folder   3/4
Reel/Frame   3/0001
1935-1937, Wisconsin
Box/Folder   3/5
Reel/Frame   3/0142
1938-1940, New York
Box/Folder   3/6
Reel/Frame   3/0255
1941-1946, World War II
Box/Folder   3/7
Reel/Frame   3/0526
1941-1946, World War II, Notes
Box/Folder   3/8
Reel/Frame   3/0592
1944-1946, Browderism
Box/Folder   4/1
Reel/Frame   3/0810
1947, House Un-American Activities Committee
Box/Folder   4/2
Reel/Frame   4/0001
1947-1948, Cold War, Progressive Party
Box/Folder   4/3,4
Reel/Frame   4/0198, 0491
1949, Smith Act Trial
Box/Folder   4/5
Reel/Frame   4/0677
1950-1955, Smith and McCarran Acts
Box/Folder   5/1
Reel/Frame   5/0001
1955-1957, Writings, Eugene Dennis et al.
Box/Folder   5/2
Reel/Frame   5/0351
1956-1958, National Party Issues
Box/Folder   5/3
Reel/Frame   5/0479
1956-1959, Eugene Dennis' Notes
Box/Folder   5/4
Reel/Frame   5/0756
1958-1959, Writings, Eugene Dennis et al.
Box/Folder   5/5
Reel/Frame   6/0001
1956-1957, Internal Party Crisis
Box/Folder   6/1
Reel/Frame   6/0280
1958-1960, Internal Party Crisis
Box/Folder   6/2
Reel/Frame   6/0451
Undated, Internal Party Crisis
Box/Folder   6/3
Reel/Frame   6/0809
1955-1960, Eugene Dennis Correspondence
Box/Folder   6/4
Reel/Frame   7/0001
1961, Correspondence about Eugene Dennis' Death
Box/Folder   6/5
Reel/Frame   7/0204
1961, Newspaper Articles and Correspondence about Eugene Dennis' Death
Box/Folder   6/6
Reel/Frame   7/0236
Eugene Dennis Biographical Material, 1947-1968
Peggy Dennis' Notes
Box/Folder   6/7
Reel/Frame   7/0298
Sheets of Paper, undated
Note Cards, undated
Abroad, 1931-1934
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0366
Soviet Union
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0417
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0513
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0554
South Africa
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0591
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0617
1935-1937, Wisconsin, Etc.
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0684
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0729
Wisconsin, Milwaukee, General
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0735
Gene, Fred, Elmer
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0738
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0756
FDR Politics (General) Wisconsin
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0782
CIO Labor (General)
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0812
Spain as Issue
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0827
Un-American Committee, Civil Liberties
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0865
3rd Party
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0941
C.P. Policies
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0955
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0958
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0962
Politics - P.P.
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0970
Dennis Contempt Case
Box   7
Reel/Frame   7/0978
Items Background of Period
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0001
Truman Doctrine
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0035
Negro Mexican Filipino Japanese
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0076
, Feb 1929-1930-Spring 1931-L.A.
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0079
Imperial Valley
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0118
Los Angeles and Southern California , 1929-1931
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0120
National Scene
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0126
Civil Liberties, IWW
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0135
Gene Specific About
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0139
Before 1928, Early Seattle
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0204
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0435
McCarran Act SACB
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0441
Smith Act Trial
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0490
Browderism, 1944-1945
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0547
Party - Election Policies, 1950-1956
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0550
McCarthy Years, 1948-1955
Box   8
Reel/Frame   8/0601
Civil Rights/Liberties
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0665
Kh Report and Reactions, February 1956
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0682
Party, Hungary, Oct. 1956
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0698
Note: Repeated at frames 757-780.
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0723
Poland , June 1956
Note: Repeated at Frames 781-794.
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0737
Shannon Acct.
Note: Repeated at Frames 795-801.
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0745
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0802
Quotes for Chapter Heads
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0855
Items , 1929-1930
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0863
Inner Party, 1929-1930
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0883
Civil Liberties, Negroes
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0889
Economic Labor
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0900
FDR - Politics
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0907
Items - National, 1924-1928
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0952
Items - California, 1924-1928
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0978
General Situation, International 6th Congress, 1928
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/0993
Soviet Union
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/1002
Prison Years
Box   9
Reel/Frame   8/1048
Box/Folder   10/1
Reel/Frame   9/0001
Box/Folder   10/2
Reel/Frame   9/0169
1975-1979, undated
Box/Folder   10/3
Reel/Frame   9/0390
Reviews, 1977-1978, undated
Box/Folder   10/4,5
Reel/Frame   9/0467
“The Communist Party and the United Front,” manuscript, undated
Letters From Prison, 1951-1955
Box/Folder   11/1
Reel/Frame   9/0910
Manuscript, undated
Box/Folder   11/2
Reel/Frame   9/1146
Manuscript, miscellaneous pages, undated
Box/Folder   11/3
Reel/Frame   10/0001
“Love and Politics: Living in the Eye of McCarthyism,” manuscript, 1981
Series: Reference File
Note: See also Writings, The Autobiography of an American Communist, Research Material.
Box/Folder   11/4
Reel/Frame   10/0217
Box/Folder   11/5
Reel/Frame   10/0474
Box/Folder   12/1
Reel/Frame   11/0001
Box/Folder   12/2
Reel/Frame   11/0287
Box/Folder   12/3
Reel/Frame   11/0581
1976-1978, undated
Box/Folder   12/4
Reel/Frame   11/0796
Party Affairs
Box   14
Reel/Frame   11/0911
Box/Folder   12/5
Reel/Frame   12/0001
Box/Folder   13/1
Reel/Frame   12/0174
Al Richmond and Dorothy Healey's Resignations from the Communist Party, 1973-1975, undated
Box/Folder   13/2
Reel/Frame   12/0225
Soviet Dissent, 1972-1974, undated
Peggy Dennis' Trip to Eastern Europe
Box/Folder   13/3
Reel/Frame   12/0300
Writings, 1965, undated
Box/Folder   13/4
Reel/Frame   12/0511
Notes, 1965
Tape 1048A
Series: Tape Recordings
No.   1
Peggy Dennis talk at the University of California at Los Angeles, November 15, 1977
No.   2-3
Radio station KPFA, Berkeley Radical Oral History Project, “California Hard Times”, July 14, 1978
No.   4-5
Radio station KSAN, San Francisco, Interview with Peggy Dennis and Jessica Mitford, November 1977