Audio 811A
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Introduction
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00:30
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How Spock Became a Peace Activist : Initial reluctance. Campaigned for Lyndon Johnson in 1964. Two years later broke with Johnson over Vietnam War. “Energized” by arrest as peace demonstrator.
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03:50
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Why Spock is in Madison : Relationship between Wisconsin Alliance and People's Party. Madison feminists' interest in him.
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04:30
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Comments on Bad Personal Reputation among Feminists : Recent reactions to his book Decent and Indecent and article in Redbook magazine. His views about inborn differences in temperament between men and women were misunderstood. When he wrote, ideas about inborn differences were common. Spock has often worked as subordinate to women.
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07:40
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Teaching in Medical School : His job to keep male medical students from becoming depersonalized by the usual curriculum. Stressed family atmosphere and personal approach to medical practice.
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10:00
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Women and Child-Rearing : He showed his sexism when he told parents to encourage girls to value child-rearing. Should have said boys and girls. In the past he assumed women alone would sacrifice careers for family: the general view of the time.
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12:05
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Recantation of Earlier Views : His recent articles in New York Times Magazine and Redbook and revisions of his books stress shared responsibility in child-rearing.
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15:45
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Call for Questions from Audience
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16:00
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Comment from Audience: Spock's Books Not Sexist For Reflecting Prevailing Attitudes
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16:50
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Question: What Would Be Effects on Children of Equally Shared Parenting?
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17:30
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Answer: No Harmful Effects : In most societies fathers visible to children most of the time: important to all children, but especially to boys. Spock's early views on sex roles reflected his insecurity as male and his psychiatric training. Now feels different domestic functions for sexes unnecessary.
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21:45
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Question: Why Should Boys Identify with Father and Girls with Mother?
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21:50
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Answer: Unhealthy Consequences of Reverse Identification : His clinical observation: healthy identifications are between parents and children of same sex. Should be no discrimination against males with predominantly feminine identifications or vice versa. His political and clinical opinions differ.
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25:00
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Question: What is Spock's Position on Abortion?
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25:00
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Answer: Abortion Not the Business of the State : Defends abortion for those who choose it. Not the ideal means of family limitation.
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25:35
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Question: What is Effect of Communal Living on Child Development?
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26:05
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Answer: No Personal Experience from Which to Judge : Nuclear family is limiting; sense of community needed. Convenient if mother wants to go out to work; other women can care for her children.
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27:55
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Comment from Audience: “Interesting that You Said 'Other Women'” Would Care for her Children
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28:05
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Reply: The Habit of a 69-Year-Old Man
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28:20
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[Returns to Answer Begun at 26:05] : Most important that children know who mother and father are. Communes are short-lived; members come and go. This can be damaging to children.
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31:05
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End of Side 1
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Introduction
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[Continuation of Answer at 28:20, Side 1]
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01:00
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Call for Questions on Politics
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01:10
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Question: What Makes People's Party Different From Democratic Party? : People's Party founded 1963 from state groups. Building new movement is long-term project: party has little money or influence with media. Local elections more important than national. Concern with community organizing as much as with electoral politics.
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04:25
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[Answer Continues] People's Party Platform : Withdrawal of U.S. forces from all over world. Close all tax loop-holes. Make income tax highly progressive. Eliminate property and sales taxes.
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07:45
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Question: How Large Would Basic Family Allowances Favored by People's Party Be? What is Party's Position on Legal Status of Drugs?
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07:55
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Answer: Minimum Family Incomes of $6500 per Year Should Be Guaranteed. Party Favors Decriminalization of Marijuana : Consensus of People's Party for something like English system of treating heroin addiction. But much disagreement on this issue.
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10:05
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Question: [Question indistinct. Relates to Treatment of Mental Patients]
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10:20
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Answer: People's Party Has No Electoral Plank on that Issue : Good free care is most important.
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10:40
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Democratic Participation in People's Party : Diversity makes consensus on all issues impossible.
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11:25
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Question: [Same Questioner as at 10:05, Side 2.] What Are Spock's Views on Accepted Definitions of Mental Illness?
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11:40
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Answer: Disagrees with Most Standards of Normality
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12:30
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Question: Does People's Party Favor Amnesty for Draft Evaders?
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12:35
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Answer: Yes. : Prefers “repatriation” to “amnesty”: latter implies forgiveness of mistakes. Government made mistakes, not draft evaders. Favors war crimes trials for members of Johnson Administration. Personal animosity toward Johnson.
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15:10
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Question: Would McGovern End Vietnam War?
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15:30
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Answer: Yes. But Many Differences between Democrats and People's Party : People's Party would end discrimination against minorities and end free enterprise economics. Industry should be designed to improve quality of life. Not nationalization but neighborhood control.
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20:25
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[Answer Continues] Neighborhood Control : Consistent theme in People's Party platform. Neighborhoods should control government, police, health facilities, integrated schools. Student and faculty control of universities.
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24:05
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Question: What is Mood of Country?
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24:30
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Answer: Evidence of Increasing Protest : Evidence: enthusiasm for George Wallace; increase in number of political independents.
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25:15
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[Answer Continues] Criticism of Richard Nixon : Nixon tries to “scapegoat the poor” for his failures. Corporate greed, not welfare, responsible for high taxes. Nixon's resistance to busing is racist. Personal remarks about Nixon.
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27:55
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Question: Isn't People's Party Appealing to Privileged Intellectuals?
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28:15
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Answer: Necessary to do so Temporarily : People's Party will eventually have to involve workers.
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28:50
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Question: Isn't a Vote for People's Party Wasted?
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29:10
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Answer: An Independent Movement is Necessary : Vote for established parties is wasted. Spock more interested in calling attention to the movement than in getting votes.
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30:15
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End of Presentation and Responses to Questions
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