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, 9/29/76 interview
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Introduction
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Segerstrom Farm : Located in township of Naples near Mondovi in Buffalo County. RS now retired, worked same farm since 1922, lives in original farmhouse.
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Background Of Margaret Segerstrom Before Marriage : MS born about two miles from present Segerstrom farm, oldest of six girls and one boy. Parents farmed about eighty acres; “didn't have much,” no conveniences, but always plenty to eat. After completing education at one room Pace school, hired out to neighborhood farmwives. In 1920 RS came to work on her grandfather's farm and they were married June 15.
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Background Of Rangnar Segerstrom: Education And Employment : Born October 1896, in township of Troy, near River Falls (St. Croix county). Attended one room schoolhouse one mile from home. Terms eight months long; spent eight years in school, graduated in 1911. Recalls winning school spelling contest; placed fifth in areawide contest at Hammond. Attended River Falls Normal School; in 1916 graduated in class of 110 from agricultural department. Decided against teaching because pay only $65 per month without board. Took job as shipping clerk in Minneapolis paint firm, and enlisted in U.S. Navy July 1918.
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RS Family; Youth On Father's Farm : RS believes grandparents came to River Falls area from Sweden about 1880. Settlers in Mann Valley area mostly Swedish and Bohemian. Nine children had to work on forty acre farm. RS recalls working for uncle, and staying home from school to watch sheep. Also recalls helping plant potatoes in area where much cabbage and potatoes grown.
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MS Parents Farm : MS grandmother came from Norway. Margaret Olson Segerstrom born in March 1903, raised on farm father had taken over from his mother.
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MS Work As Hired Girl Before Marriage : Began hiring out age 15-16; earned $1 per week working in farmhouse and barn. Recalls milking cows, churning butter, and baking bread. Neighbors mostly Norwegian, though MS worked for people of mixed ethnic backgrounds. Used earnings to buy clothes for herself and other children in family.
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RS Enlists In U.S. Navy, : “Liked the idea of the Navy,” and would have soon been drafted by Army. Trained at Great Lakes and recalls drilling ten hours per day. Many sailors with farming backgrounds.
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RS Attitude Toward World War I : Believed the war would make “our country safe for democracy,” but ”of course, that was drilled into us, too“ in recruit training.
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RS Reaction To La Follette's Anti-War Position : Never thought much about it at the time. Recalls hearing La Follette speak in U.S. Senate while stationed at Baltimore. Parents strong La Follette supporters.
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RS Duty Assignments In Navy : Trained aboard old battleship USS Massachusetts. Sent to Europe on English ship; served aboard troop transport USS Santalina, reconverted German ship.Had duties as fireman shoveling coal, and as water tender.
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RS Recalls Storm At Sea : USS Massachusetts encountered serious storm; “the water came in, and everything was moving.” Most sailors became seasick.
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RS Mustered Out Of Navy,
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Introduction
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RS Comes To Naples Township, : Came with friend to work in Naples township on farm located two miles from present RS farm. Came by freight train with machinery and horses in April 1920 in time to plant crops on 320 acre farm. Cultivated and seeded 280 acres with gang plow and walking plow. 110 acres of corn mostly fed to steers.
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RS Wages Paid On Share Arrangement : Owner received half, RS and partner split other half. Soil quite sandy, didn't make much money.
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Marketing Steers : Took to River Falls for finishing.
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Family And Neighborhood Politics : MS family originally Republican, became La Follette Progressives, and then Democrats in 1940's. Neighborhood tended to support progressive Republicans, especially after World War I.
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Courtship : RS courted with white horse and buggy; when horse needed for work, they walked.
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MS Rarely Leaves Farm Before Marriage : Family occasionally took horse and buggy to visit nearby relatives; MS recalls walking five miles to Eleva for short-lived music lessons.
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Road Condition In The 1920's : Roads poor until FDR elected and Works Progress Administration (WPA) began repair and construction work. County did nothing to maintain roads; individual farmers took responsibility until township patrolman appointed to grade roads. People drove cars in summer and sleighs in winter; spring bad because cars became stuck in mud.
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Buy First Car In : Purchased Ford Model T because cheap. Financed $360 cost with Mondovi dealer on $28 per month installment plan.
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Beginning To Farm During Post World War I Recession : Prices began post-war drop in 1920. “Quite a recession” in 1921-22 with little improvement during rest of decade. Recalls crash of 1929 and beginning of bank failures in 1929-1930.
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Low Commodity Prices During Depression : RS recalls selling hogs for $2.75-$3.00 per hundred during 1930-1932. Good cows brought $5. Eggs sold for 6-7 cents per dozen.
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Impact Of FDR Presidency Beginning In 1933 : Roosevelt created WPA, fed people, and “started the ball a rolling so that everything got secure again.” WPA employed many to build good roads with firm rock base.
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Segerstroms First Live At Ms Grandfather's Farm : Lived on MS grandfather's farm during first year of marriage. MS recalls farm had nice springhouse, but inconveniently located up a hill.
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Segerstroms Move To Present Farm In 1922 : RS brother-in-law purchased farm as investment from owner unable to meet payments. RS rented it from him for about ten years and in 1932 RS and MS purchased the property.
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Farm Depreciation During 1920's-1930's : Farm sold for $23,000 during World War I; RS brother-in-law paid $14,000 in 1922. In 1932, Segerstroms purchased for $6,500 with help from Federal Land Bank.
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RS Farm Management During Brother-In-Law's Ownership : Brother-in-law a railroad man who knew little about farming; RS made day-to-day decisions.
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Introduction
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Changes In Farmhouse Since 1922 : House approximately same size since Segerstroms came to farm, although remodeled extensively.
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Wood Heating And Wood-Cutting Bees : Before central heating installed in 1961, house warmed by wood stoves; RS bought standing timber, and with father-in-law cut timber with two-man saw. Took two-three days to cut down trees for winter supply of wood. Occasionally got hired help. Sometimes neighbors had wood-cutting bee followed by oyster stew supper and dance at farmhouse.
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Farm Electrification : Used gas and kerosene lamps until Rural Electrification Administration (REA) electrified area farms.
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Changes In Barn And Silos : Barn built in 1905; two large cupolas; originally had wood stave silo destroyed by “twister” in 1930's. Rebuilt wooden silo with steel reinforcing rods; built concrete silo in 1942.
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Separating Milk On Farm And Storing And Marketing Cream, : Milk originally separated in barn, with place outside for washing separator.Ran water through cement tank to cool cream and butter; butter stored in earthen jars. Windmill provided power to raise water, with gasoline engine for emergency. MS took cream to Mondovi Cooperative Creamery by horse and buggy once or twice per week. Skim milk fed to calves and pigs.
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MS Parents Take Milk To Cheese Factory. : Parents kept milk overnight in stock tank. Hauled whole milk every morning to Norden cheese factory; fed whey to hogs. Earliest to arrive at cheese factory got whey with most fat content.
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MS Task Of Hauling Cream Typical Woman's Task : Women typically brought cream to creamery because of labor shortage; continued to do so after trucks substituted for horses. Provided women opportunity to shop, though small amount of egg money needed mostly for groceries. In fall egg money supplemented by profits from chicken sales.
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Marketing Whole Milk Instead Of Farm-Separated Cream : Began marketing whole milk to Mondovi Cooperative Creamery about 1940.
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Development Of Guernsey Dairy Herd : Herd mainly pure-bred Guernseys; bought first ones from neighbor with registered show stock. Produced consistent 400-500 pound average. Usually kept about 35-40 head, though housed some in horse barn because not enough room in main barn. Herd auctioned in 1958.
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Acquires Milking Machine : Purchased milking machine about 1940, three years after farm electrified.
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Water Supply In Barn And Farmhouse : Got water in barn in 1940. House water supply stored in holding tank filled by windmill.
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Raising And Marketing Hogs : Generally kept 7-8 sows which produced from 50-60 hogs per year. First marketed in Mondovi to private buyer from Eau Claire. Later, shipped to Equity Cooperative Livestock Shipping Association at Milwaukee; shifted to South St. Paul after Farmers Union got organized.
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Horses On Farm : RS originally brought several horses from farm where he formerly had worked. Recalls especially good team of seven and eight year olds.
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Introduction
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Continuation Of Discussion Of Horses On Farm : Discusses technique for hitching horses to gang plow. Still had one team in 1951 to plant corn and haul manure in wintertime. Good corn-planters not available yet in 1951; tractor used for plowing, followed by horse-drawn machinery for planting corn and seeding grain. Could plant 12-15 acres of corn per day with horses.
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Buys First Tractor : Bought second-hand steel lug tractor in 1938 for $325 from Farmers Union Central Exchange at South St. Paul and trucked back to farm. Before 1938 used steam engines exclusively for belt power, for filling silo and shredding corn. Threshed and filled silo cooperatively with other farmers.
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Ideas For Changes And Improvements : Some ideas from River Falls agricultural course; one of first in neighborhood to plant alfalfa in 1928. County agent and employees of cooperatives came to local Farmers Union meetings and explained use of lime and other methods; recalls buying bulk lime cooperatively in Mondovi and shoveling it onto wagons and sleighs. Information from several farm journals: Wisconsin Agriculturist and Hoard's Dairyman, though didn't always agree with editorial policy of the latter.
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Membership In Organizations 1920's : Member of Mondovi Cooperative Creamery, Farmers Cooperative Lumber Company, and the Equity Cooperative in Mondovi.
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Comments On George Nelson, President Of American Society Of Equity, : Good judgment, understood problems of farmers and common people, very cooperative. Forceful, sensible speaker. MS doesn't recall that his Socialist politics in 1930's had much impact on area farmers.
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Early Opposition By American Society Of Equity To Farmers Union Organizing Efforts : MS feels Equity feared Farmers Union would disrupt or swallow older organization.
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How Segerstroms Came To Join Farmers Union : Farmers Union representative, accompanied by neighbor of Segerstroms, came to farm in winter of 1928-1929, and gave “sales talk.” Segerstroms joined, agreeing it was time for farmers to unite and use power to influence national legislation. Had heard previously of activities of Northwest Organizing Committee; 1929 crash added to farmer uncertainty. Paid high initial membership fee, $7.50, and “don't know how we scraped it up.”
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Farmers Union Organization In Wisconsin : Segerstroms and others in area influenced by Benny Olson, a neighbor. Members organized into locals; recalls first state convention in Menomonie, October 1929. Hard times resulted in large turnouts of discouraged farmers. Telephone important in getting 80-90 people at a local meeting. Recall Congressman Merlin Hull and Governor Phil La Follette speaking at quarterly meetings at fair grounds. : The first state convention of the Farmer's Educational and Cooperative Union of America, Wisconsin Division, actually was held in October, 1930.
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Farmers Union Membership Trends, : Though nearly every township in Buffalo county organized, membership fell when conditions improved and other organizations competed for members. Now two large locals in Buffalo county.
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RS Attends State Conventions While President Of Naples Farmers Union Local : Recalls attending second state convention at Chippewa Falls and third convention at Madison.
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Segerstroms Members Of Farmers Holiday Association : Joined Farm Holiday Association for one dollar membership fee.
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Local Farmers Union Prevents Foreclosure : Farmers Union members acted in these cases under the auspices of the Farmers Holiday Association. : While RS president of Farmers Union local, members helped prevent foreclosure of neighborhood farmer with ten children by writing and calling Madison officials. Farmers Union members also helped stop other foreclosures.
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Penny Auctions : Don't recall any penny auctions in area, although RS remembers helping to stop farm sale.
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Introduction
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Major Issues At Early Farmers Union Local Meetings, : Main concern with how to get more money for produce; improve standard of living. The first state convention of the Farmers Educational and Cooperative Union of America, Wisconsin Division, was held in October
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Procedure At Early Farmers Union Local Meetings : Farmers Union state office gave instruction on meeting procedure and suggested discussion topics on national legislation. Outside speakers included George Lewis of Trempealeau County, assemblyman Arthur Hitt of Alma. State president A.N. Young and state secretary Bill Sanderson often attended county meetings.
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Comments On Kenneth Hones : Many in area liked his straightforward approach, though he had difficulty controlling his temper. Recalls Farmers Union state convention at Madison where Hones, then vice-president, shamed hecklers of A.N. Young, led by Fritz Schultheiss from Prairie Farm (Barron County). Incident put Hones in favorable light among Farmers Union members.
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Comments On Fritz Schultheiss : More radical than most Farmers Union members, but a radicalism more of behavior than of political philosophy. Seemed to have chip on shoulder; argumentative and unwilling to compromise. No idea why he was named a state commissioner of agriculture.
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Comments On Arnold Gilberts : “Left-winger” on about same order as Schultheiss. Always critical of existing Farmers Union setup.
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Farmers Union Builds Central Exchange At South St. Paul : Segerstroms attended early Central Exchange meetings at South St. Paul; later helped organize busloads of farmers to visit Farmers Union cooperative facilities.
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Comments On Walter Singler, President Of Wisconsin Cooperative Milk Pool : First met Singler at joint meeting of Farmers Holiday Association add Milk Pool at Marshfield in 1932. Singler “looked like a big cowboy.”
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Why Segerstroms Joined Farmers Holiday Association : Joined to help farmers get “a few dollars”. No strings attached to the one dollar membership fee.
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Antagonism Between Farmers Union And Farmers Holiday Association : Farmers Union didn't approve of methods employed by Farmers Holiday Association under Milo Reno of Iowa. Farmers Union feared Farmers Holiday Association picketing during Madison State Farmers Union convention would provoke violence.
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Segerstroms Withhold Milk During 1930's Milk Strikes : Joined neighbors in withholding milk. No violence; both Mondovi creameries shut down. Farmers separated milk on farms, made butter, and fed skim milk to stock. Withholding actions short-lived, “didn't hurt us too much,” but needed “to help get things straightened out.”
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Comments On Milo Reno : Impressed by speaking ability of Reno; recall large crowds turned out to hear him at Eau Claire and Chippewa Falls.
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Low Prices During Depression : Recalls during period 1928-1929 eggs sold for five to seven cents per dozen; hogs sold for $2.75-$3.00 per hundred, packing sows as low as $1.50 per hundred.
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Area Voter Support For Roosevelt In : Estimates Roosevelt received from 95-98 per cent of his Farmers Union local's support. Election of FDR “turned it around”: banks reorganized, WPA created to build badly needed roads, lime program begun. Recalls program which employed local men to crush rocks for road improvement. WPA program important because men had to work in order to eat. Mondovi city building constructed with federal funds.
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Introduction
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WPA And CCC Programs In Segerstroms' Neighborhood : WPA built many crushed rock roads; not graveled, however, until later. CCC little effect in immediate neighborhood, but kept young boys busy building fences and planting trees in towns of Maxwell, Nelson, and Waumaundee.
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Soil Conservation Service, : RS member of township “Triple-A” committee. Encouraged farmers to lime soil and grow alfalfa. Committee stressed strip-cropping, advised farmers on maximum corn to grow on acreage allotments. RS concerned in 1976 that many conservation practices begun in 1930's have been discontinued; MS states that Republicans are responsible.
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Rural Electrification Administration (Rea) : Little electricity in area until REA. Northern States Power Company's installation rates prohibitive. RS active in organizing farmers to sign up for REA; got required three farmers to a mile from town of Naples to beyond Trempealeau county line. Some farmers unwilling to participate either out of habit or skepticism. Wisconsin Farmers Union strongly backed REA and educated members to support it. REA charged minimum of $3.50 per month for forty kilowatts; some people not ready to use current after electricity turned on. Northern States received little business although its rates dropped drastically.
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Electricity Turned On : Turned on electricity March 1938, by which time Segerstroms had purchased refrigerator and radio. Limited use of household electricity at first; if milking machines operating, little “juice” left for the house.
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Anecdote About RS Reaction When Electricity First Turned On : RS in barn when lights came on unexpectedly. Ran outside in surprise; found Arthur Hitt of Alma who had just alerted MS electricity about to come on. Neighborhood pancake suppers to celebrate; proceeds went to Farmers Union.
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Importance Of Persuading Community Leaders To Support REA : Certain neighborhood leaders the key to convincing most others to join REA.
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RS Signs Up Farmers For REA In Trempealeau County : Also signed up many farmers in nearby Trempealeau county to join Buffalo County Electric Cooperative. REA couldn't recruit members in Northern States area. Recalls one woman who hooked up to electricity lines without paying.
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Family Gives RS Time To Sign Up Farmers For REA : MS and oldest son did milking at night to free RS to recruit members for REA. Women very influential in getting men to support REA, especially once cost saving and safety features understood.
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Farmers Union Support For Rea : REA a “Farmers Union baby.” Farmers Union instrumental in getting Congress to pass REA legislation. Recalls special support of Arthur Hitt, Alma, George Lewis of Trempealeau county, and Orland Loomis of Mauston.
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RS Absence While Organizing For REA : Family glad when RS completed REA organizing work.
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, 9/30/76 interview
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Introduction
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Segerstroms Role In Farmers Union Local : RS president of Naples-Mondovi Farmers Union local #41 from 1932 to 1937; MS secretary from 1943 to present (1976).
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Importance Of Farmers Union Youth Program : Has helped keep family together; teaches legislation, education, and cooperation. Recalls how Chester Dodge, Mondovi school principal, approved student absence to attend Farmers Union state conventions because of educational value.
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Advantages Of Farmers Union Youth Program : Lessons taught from age eight; major advantages include opportunity to attend state Farmers Union camp and to earn trips to national camp in Colorado. Segerstrom children and grandchildren have attended national camp.
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Location Of Youth Program Local Meetings : Met at first in farm homes; later in Mondovi city building. Junior leaders conduct monthly youth meetings.
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Location Of Farmers Union Meetings : At first in members' homes; later moved to Naples town hall or schoolhouse. Earl Robinson guided merger between Mondovi and Naples locals.; local now meets in Mondovi city building.
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Comparison Of Farmers Union Youth Program And 4-H : Farmers Union youth program has broader view that stresses legislation, education, and cooperation, while 4-H emphasis on developing skills related to specific aspects of farm life. Many children belong to both groups.
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Farmers Union Organizes First Camp : MS involved in first week-long Farmers Union camp at Chetek. Ruth Huntington, first state Farmers Union junior leader with 4-H experience, and some national junior leaders helped to organize youth program and camp.
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Farmers Union President Kenneth Hones First Suggests Building Farmers Union Youth Camp : Hones, a nature-lover, suggested establishment of independent Farmers Union youth camp.
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Farmers Union Raises Money For Camp : Raised money through locals, cooperatives, sales, basket socials. Segerstroms donated much money and labor.
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Farmers Union Members Help Build Camp : MS recalls clearing out brush before getting first building started. RS remembers digging out for fireplace and trenches for foundation, putting on siding, constructing chimney for main building. All labor voluntary; no electricity at first.
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Ken Hones's Contribution To Camp Development : Kamp Kenwood named for Hones, possibly at Jean Long's suggestion. Hones prepared layout and building plans. Allowed few trees to be cut; left little auto parking space.
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Junior Leaders Attend Camp : Junior leaders attended camp every summer.
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Kamp Kenwood Schedule : Beginners attend three days; juniors for one week. Chaperones and lifeguards watch children. Legislation, education, and cooperation instruction for several hours each morning. In the afternoon children play, perform skits, run. cooperative stores to learn management.
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Camp Admits Children Of Non-Farmers Union Members : City children may attend as visitors.
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Farmers Union Permits Children Of Non-Members To Attend Kamp Kenwood : As guests, although Farmers Union children have first priority.
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Farmers Union Juniors Plant Trees At Camp In 1940's : In 1940's juniors planted over five hundred pine trees to line camp road.
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Location Of Kamp Kenwood : On Lake Wissota near Chippewa Falls. All log buildings constructed from trees on property.
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Relationship Between Farmers Union Local And Cooperatives In Mondovi And Eleva : Although seventy-five to eighty per cent of Mondovi Equity Cooperative patrons are farmers, not necessary to be member of Farmers Union. Anyone, including townspeople, who patronize cooperative can share in cooperative dividends.
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Relationship Between Cooperative And Farmers Union Central Exchange : Mondovi cooperative also operated large feed mill and corn bins. Cooperative early bought fuel from Skelly Oil Company; later pro-Farmers Union directors control board of Mondovi Equity Cooperative. When Farmers Union member Francis Diller hired as manager, cooperative affiliated with Central Exchange.
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Tape/Side
4/2
Time
12:00
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Segerstroms Attend Central Exchange Annual Meeting In Twin Cities : Attended Central Exchange annual meetings each year beginning in mid-1930's. Impressed with speakers, enjoyed banquets. Later, Segerstroms helped organize busloads for $2.50 to $3.00 apiece and arranged for free meals.
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Tape/Side
4/2
Time
17:00
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New Building Of Farmers Union Grain Terminal Association (GTA) : Attended open house for new GTA headquarters building in about 1933-1934. “ Overnight” profits on flax paid for building. Segerstroms knew M.W. Thatcher personally; admired ex-teacher Frank Livingston who gave visitors tour of the building.
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Tape/Side
4/2
Time
22:35
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Central Exchange Annual Meetings Stimulate Patronage Of Local Cooperatives : Visitors to Central Exchange annual meetings impressed by set-up; helped build patronage in local Farmers Union cooperatives.
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Tape/Side
4/2
Time
24:00
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More Discussion On Bus Trips To Central Exchange Annual Meetings : MS organized busloads to Central Exchange for ten to fifteen years. Mondovi Equity Cooperative began to pay for buses when Francis Diller became manager. No bus trips during last few years.
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Tape/Side
4/2
Time
26:55
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Central Exchange Helps Finance State And Local Farmers Union Organizations : Central Exchange returns percentage of income to state Farmers Union for education; money distributed to locals. MS feels youth program would have financial problems without Central Exchange.
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Tape/Side
4/2
Time
29:30
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Elements Necessary For Successful Cooperative : Manager must be cooperative-minded, believe in cooperative philosophy. Directors must set example by cooperative patronage. Manager must be a good businessman. Francis Diller manager for twelve years, “really put the Mondovi Equity... where it is today.” Got along well with private businessmen. Central Exchange distributes certain percentage of margin to local cooperatives.
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Tape/Side
4/2
Time
33:50
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End Tape 4, Side 2
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
00:00
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Introduction
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
00:30
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Membership And Attendance Trends In Naples-Mondovi Farmers Union Local : Membership steady, but attendance at meetings has dropped. More diversions, such as bowling and school events, reduce attendance at local and cooperative meetings.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
02:25
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Farmers Have Less Free Time With Modern Machinery : Greater reliance on machinery since 1930's fails to provide more free time. Care of more efficient but expensive machinery, larger herds, night field work, second jobs, all reduce farmers' time for Farmers Union and other meetings. Segerstroms feel they would rather farm in 1930's than in 1976.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
07:15
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Hard Times Bring Farmers To Farmers Union Meetings : Good attendance at meetings when people in distress, as during the Depression. RS sees hard times in neighborhood in 1976 because of three years of drought, high interest rates, and high debts.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
10:35
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Good Attendance At Farmers Union State Meetings : MS optimistic over improved attendance at state Farmers Union meetings and at special meetings on important issues; believes people aware of FU influence on national legislation.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
11:35
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Attendance At Farmers Union Meetings During World War II : High during 1940's; has fallen steadily since 1950's.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
12:05
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Early Farmers Union State Conventions : First area meeting held in 1929 in Dunn County; first state convention held in Menomonie in 1930. First state convention raucous affair with much competition over leadership and platform. Little intensive debate at later meetings; general agreement on desire for higher prices for produce. Conventions peaceful during Hones presidency; members satisfied with his organizational ability.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
18:25
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Communists Fail To Infiltrate Farmers Union : In early 1950's Jenkins of Dunn County, a communist, tried to undermine Farmers Union through education department. Hones found communist literature in education program and burned it; could have been troublesome for Farmers Union during McCarthy period.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
20:05
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Farmer Radicalism In The Segerstrom's Neighborhood : No radicals in neighborhood.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
20:50
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Dissension Within Farmers Union : Friction between Hones and Mary Jo Weiler and Warren Miller in late 1930's due more to personalities than substance. : Meant to say Warren Nelson, state secretary in late-1930's.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
21:40
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M.W. Thatcher Effective Proponent Of Central Exchange : Good speaker; persuaded farmers that strong cooperatives in Twin Cities would benefit all farmers whether cooperative members or not. Experienced in grain business, Thatcher could demonstrate to farmers advantages of cooperation.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
24:40
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Comments On Charles Talbott
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
25:50
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Comments On A.N. Ricker
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
26:55
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Membership Dues In Farmers Union : Membership dues dropped from $7.50 when Segerstroms first joined to $2.50 during hard times of 1934-1936. Increases since.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
28:00
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Farmers Union Juniors Get Farmers Union Life Insurance Policy : Those who complete youth program and first year of junior work receive free $1,000 insurance policy; recipient pays $1.00 per year on policy thereafter.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
29:10
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RS Farmers Union Insurance Agent : RS one of first area Farmers Union insurance agents; sold for 23 years until 1971.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
30:40
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Farmer-Labor Progressive Federation (FLPF) : RS believed Farmers Union membership in FLPF in 1930's would mean greater influence on national legislation; helped support political candidates who were La Follette progressives.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
32:35
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Political Rally Attended By Phil La Follette : Recalls meeting at Durand where Phil La Follette spoke to 2,000-3,000 people gathered at Tom Pattison's. RS worked hard for Phil La Follette.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
33:45
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End Tape 5, Side 1
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
00:00
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Introduction
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
00:30
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Continuation Of Discussion About Meeting At Pattison's
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
00:50
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Comments On Robert La Follette, Jr. : Seldom at area meetings, though sometimes at Farmers Union state conventions. RS recalls that La Follette a good speaker who held the old La Follette philosophy.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
01:30
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La Follette Returns To Republican Party; Segerstroms Join With Democrats : Dismayed when Bob La Follette, Jr. returned to Republican party in 1940's. Segerstroms became Democrats, as party philosophy had changed. Feel Roosevelt brought U.S. out of crisis; Harry Truman also “wonderful.”
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
03:00
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Wisconsin Democrats During Governorship Of Albert Schmedeman : During Schmedeman's term, philosophy of Wisconsin Democrats not like that of national party under Roosevelt.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
03:30
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Most Progressives In Segerstrom's Neighborhood Become Democrats : Most Progressives became Democrats when Wisconsin party reorganized.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
04:40
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Early Leaders In Buffalo County Area Who Help Organize New Democratic Party : Included Arthur Hitt, Adolph and Verna Maasson, Arthur Benjamin, Elmer Steiner, Progressives in 1930's.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
06:20
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RS Joins Democratic Party : RS voted for Roosevelt in 1930's; began to support local Democratic candidates in 1940's after demise of Progressives. Historically, Buffalo county heavily Republican, but has “gone a long way these past years.” RS chairman of Buffalo county Democratic party for six years and helped bring about change. Over 350 county members in 1976.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
08:45
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Why Democratic Party Begins To Challenge Republican Party In Buffalo County : Democrats beat many old Republicans because Democratic programs help farmers, small businessmen, and working people. Truman years best for farmer in terms of prices and profits. People did well under Democrats; “moved up” in the 1940's after the hard times of the 1930's. No reason to support Republicans, the party of the rich.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
12:15
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Why Farmers Should Work With Urban Workers : Although workers want low food prices, and farmers want to sell for high prices, the two groups are interdependent; must buy products of each other's labor. Concerned, however, about such arrangements as “Russian wheat deal.”
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
15:50
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Agriculture Educates Labor : Farmers trying to educate workers to understand rural problems, especially in matter of parity income. Parity level of 75 per cent established during Eisenhower administration not high enough in 1976.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
17:15
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Comments On Government Bureaucracy : Many government organizations with similar functions should be consolidated; national government should be as efficient as any private enterprise, according to RS.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
18:50
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Farmers Need Government-Administered Parity Levels : RS supports government parity price controls to protect farmers against uncertainty of “supply and demand.” Opposes establishment of wages above parity by organized labor. Full parity with definite floor and ceiling worked during Truman's administration; changed by Republicans.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
21:25
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Farmers Union Members Travel To Washington, D.C. To Meet With Government Leaders : RS went in 1953 and MS in 1954 to Washington to speak with congressional representatives and administration officials. Eisenhower and agriculture secretary Ezra Taft Benson reluctant to meet with Farmers Union representatives. Particularly irritated because Benson had lowered parity level for milk from 90 to 75 per cent; for Segerstroms meant loss of $100 per month.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
24:50
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Comments On Senator Alexander Wiley : Republican who nevertheless received much Democratic support. Good on some issues, willing to meet with Farmers Union representatives, but never did much.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
26:00
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Comments On Melvin Laird : Refused to meet with any Wisconsin Farmers Union representatives who were not district constituents.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
26:40
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Comments On Lester Johnson : Very good Congressman.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
26:45
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Comments On Vernon Thomson : Republican who always promised much during election campaigns but did little. Improved in later years because of stiff Democratic challengers.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
28:20
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Comments On Others Who Ran Against Vernon Thomson : Mention unsuccessful campaign of Democrat Gunnar A. Gundersen. Ray Short from Platteville a good man, as was Alvin Baldus from Eau Claire. Feel individual farmers have fared better under Democrats than Republicans, but will support Republicans who do a good job.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
30:50
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Crops And Livestock During Early Years Of Farming : Farmed 120 acres in four-year rotation; divided almost equally between 20-25 acres clover timothy and oats; 20-25 corn; 20-25 hay; and 20-25 pasture. Had 20-22 milking cows, plus 15 younger cows to replenish herd. Also had four horses.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
33:35
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End Tape 6, Side 1
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
00:00
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Introduction
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
00:30
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More On Livestock During Early Years Of Farming : Farm supported around 100 hogs. Had 150-200 laying hens, bought chicks every year. Bought groceries with egg money. Usually bought a little corn for hogs. Never bought hay since crops and pasture sufficient to feed cattle.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
02:05
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Farm Machinery From 1920's : Bought used grain binder for $50 in 1924. Bought used drill, springtooth harrow. Also had corn binder to cut and bind corn for silo filling. Shared threshing machines, corn shredders, and silo fillers with other farmers.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
03:45
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Early Farm Income : Before 1930's got about six cents per pound for hogs. Managed fairly well although cream check not too large.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
04:15
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Herd : Usually bought oil-meal to add protein to feed for cows. Good herd of Guernseys which averaged 400 pounds butterfat. Cow tester came, first one in 1920's.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
05:20
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Raising Alfalfa : Liming program led to alfalfa. Later, mixed timothy and broom grass with alfalfa to improve pasture. Always mowed hay, forked it loose and filled 30 x 70 barn. Later, got wire hay baler and baling fork to help get hay into mow.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
07:25
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Later Machinery Purchases : Relatively little invested in machinery. First tractor a 10 W which cost $360. In 1945, purchased International Harvester tractor, though still used horses for hauling manure in winter and planting corn.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
08:05
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Milkhouse : Built milkhouse in 1947 for Grade B milk. Cooler held six to eight cans; used cans until quit farming.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
09:25
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Sells Herd And Machinery And Quits Farming : Auctioned dairy herd as well as some machinery in 1958; son left for military service and farming too much work without his help.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
10:35
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Builds Concrete Silo : In 1942 builder from Downsville (Dunn county) offered to build 12 x 40 concrete silo for less than $600. Same builder contracted with other farmers in area. Wanted more stable silo since old wooden one had blown down twice.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
13:10
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Hired Labor : No hired labor until sons got older, except for occasional day work in busy seasons.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
14:25
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Relationship With County Agent : Saw county agent occasionally at meetings, but received little help on farm improvements. RS kept up with farm developments by reading extensively after his normal school agricultural course. Cow tester provided new information on feeding.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
16:20
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Compares Drought In 1970's To One In 1930's : Buffalo county shortage of rain for last three years (1973-1976) has brought drought just as bad as in 1934-1936. Ground dry “clear down”; much moisture needed, especially for type soil in area. Good land cracking open as deep as eight feet near brother's farm around St. Peter, Minnesota.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
18:25
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Farmers Cut Pine Tree Windbreaks : Some farmers extend crop acreage by removing pine trees planted during Depression to prevent sand erosion.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
20:05
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Little Direct Aid From National Government During 1930's : Received no subsidy to purchase grass and hay for cows. Farmers paid for transportation of lime. Some farmers in 1930's unable to take lime or fertilizer because they had no equipment for spreading.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
21:30
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Orchard And Garden : Has always had orchard; grew apples, plums, berries. Always had a large garden, and proud of Concord grapes.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
23:00
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Comments On Future Of Rural Life And Farming : RS generally optimistic, but concerned with need for government to provide incentives to keep young folks on farm despite high costs and interest rates. Fears corporate ownership will squeeze out family-size farm. MS feels farming good experience; they planned carefully, managed with what they had, never went into debt. Easy credit in 1976 has led to credit over-use.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
27:55
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Cooperative Commonwealth And Organizational Membership Among Farmers : Still a possibility with greater support from more people. Farm Bureau, Farmers Union, and National Farmers Organization all working for same things; have decided to compete less and work together to sign up members. Important that collective membership of farmers' organizations increases. Some farmers in Buffalo county belong to more than one general organization. Segerstroms believe that Farm Bureau in particular has changed; greater sympathy than before for retaining family-size farm.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
33:10
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End Of Interview
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