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Wisconsin Dairymen's Association.
Judge Rosa: Off thirty acres?
Mr. Kammer: Yes.
A Member: In hot weather during the summer, do you keep your
cows in the barn or out in the yard?
Mr. Kammer: I have a shed in the yard. They stay under that,
and if it is bad I put them in the barn. I put gunny-sacks on the
windows to make it dark. I got a nice barn, a warm barn, well ven-
tilated with the King system of ventilation, plenty of windows.
A Member: In this cold weather do you keep them in the barn all
the time?
Mr. Kammer: Always: Only let them out to drink. I give them
a drink of water after they get through eating In the morning, then
about four o'clock I feed and milk them and after milking I let them
out again.
A Member: Do you do that on a real cold day?
Mr. Kammer: Always, except In real stormy weather.
A Member:    Do you cut your rye or pasture it?
Mr. Kammer: Last year I cut It, but I like pasturing better. I
tried cutting It last year to see if I could make It better th;at way.
It seemed to me they ruined so much when they pastured it, but I got
better returns when I pastured it.
A Member: When you pasture your rye and it is wet weather,
don't you think it spoils your land, the cattle walking on it?
Mr. Kammer: No, I never see any difference. I sow the rye awful
thick, two bushels to the acre, and there is a regular sod there. Around
August and the first part of September, the rye gets an awful start.
A Member: If you seed your alfalfa with rye, does not the feeding
of it destroy the seeding?
Mr. Kammer: I don't sow anything in that.
Judge Rosa: The alfalfa is the only hay you have.
Mr. Kammer: That is all I have. I wouldn't have anything else.
A Member: Have you ever had your cows tested?
Mr. Kammer: Yes, last winter, and one reacted.
A Member: What did you do?
Mr. Kammer: I kept her in a separate place. It was a three-year-
old. I kept her in a box stall with the horses, and in six months
tested her again and she reacted again, and I sent her away.
A Member: Do you belong to a test association, that tests for
butter fat?
Mr. Kammer: Yes.
The Chairman: That testing association has been a help to you,
bas It?
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