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tural interests of this state shall be better served; whereby 
the dairy interes* of the state shall receive some of the 
money of this state, that something practical shall be done 
for the farmers of Wisconsin. Why is it that in our legisla- 
ture the railroads and lumber interests are always listened 
to? Why, because they are organized; because they know 
something of what they want. I believe we ought to do 
something towards establishing in Wisconsin an expenri 
mental statiox, and I hope that this convention will do 
thing to forward it. 
Mr. Hiram Smith-Although the questions put to us by 
Mr. Curtis are very pertinent, yet are we very far behind 
other industries? Do machinists know precisely how to 
apply power? We see the cog gear recommended, we see 
friction recommended, and there is the same uncertainty, if 
you look at it closely, through all human activities, and 
though we make many failures, yet we make as many suc- 
cesses. What shall we do? Shall we at down and wait for 
science before we do anything? We all know that you may 
pursue two different plans and get good results from both. 
You may set the milk in shallow pans, in a temperature of 
sixty degrees, and get butter almost perfection. You may 
set it away from the air, at a temperature of forty-five de- 
grees, and get butter almost perfection. Now, I am as much 
in favor of an experimental station in this state as any man, 
and I hope Mr. Hoard's suggestion will be carried out. 
Prof. Henry -I want to tell you of something we did on 
the experimental farm towards answering some of these 
questions. There is a man in this state selling what he calls 
a vacuum cream extractor, for which he will charge you 
W40. He claims he can take cream off in about forty min- 
utes, and that he can deodorize the milk, and so on. The 
company brought their pump down to our experimental 
farm, and there, before witnesses, Oey went through with 
their tests, and the tests came out against them. We got 
more cream in the Cooley deep-setting pans They fell be- 
hind the Cooley twenty per cent. in the amount of butter. 
They had a second trial, and they still got less. They are 
advertising all over the state of Wiuscomn, and when our 
report came out they_ claimed we hurt their business, and 
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