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Ketchum, Paul M. (ed.) / The Wisconsin engineer
Volume 42, Number 5 (February 1938)

Alumni notes,   pp. 92-95

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The First Job...
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steel, the metallurgist makes an analysis to see if it meets
the specifications on which it was purchased. The average
personnel man has no analyist at hand. He must make his
own tests and he has no high-powered microscope with
which to do it.
  The initial interview is an important moment for the
applicant. The interviewer has a tendency to say "Yes" or
"No" in his own mind before the applicant has had an op-
portunity to remove his hat, twitch it nervously from one
hand to another, waiting for an invitation to have a chair.
Most interviewers guard against snap judgments and will
give you an opportunity to tell your story. You must be
impressive at this point, yet not too talkative. If you ap-
pear too anxious, it may register against you. If you wait
for questions, you may be considered too backward. What
to do at this point depends on circumstances. As an after
dinner speaker senses the tempo of his audiences, so you
must sense the tempo of your interviewer. Be natural.
Omit all unnecessary detail. Stick to your one goal. Leave
when you have told your story.
  There are a number of characteristics on which you are
being judged during the course of this interview. They
can be grouped in three definite groups: (1) mental fit-
ness, (2) physical fitness, and (3) technical skill. The lat-
ter is not particularly difficult to ascertain. You may carry
credentials either from a previous employer or from your
school that will help in establishing this fact. If there is
doubt concerning your skill, and you have other attributes
sufficient to overcome that weakness, the personnel de-
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partment may ask for assistance from a technical super-
visor from the department for wh i c h you are being
  Once you are hired and report for work, your problem
changes slightly. Most young engineers today go into stu-
dent training courses. In no two shops are these identical.
To be successful, they must be flexible enough to recog-
nize and reward individual application and progress.
  We explain to our men before they are hired that we are
not going to put them through a school. In fact, we do
not promise them anything. We merely give them an op-
portunity to learn. The boy who is going to learn the most
in the least amount of time is the fellow who puts on his
overalls at 7.30 a. m. and hits the ball with the men until
the end of the shift in the afternoon. He gets an oppor-
tunity to shift from one department to another, being put
only into such jobs as enable him to learn the design of
the product and its application. We do not expect our
students to become proficient journeymen in any trade.
We do expect them to do their share in the gang. By so
doing, they "get by" well with the journeymen who, after
all, are the fellows who answer most of the questions the
boys may ask. Later on when these fellows climb and get
into key positions, these same journeymen are still in the
ranks. If the student has taken advantage of the oppor-
tunities he had while in the training course, the forces be-
hind him will buoy him up.
  It means work-hard work-but, after all, that's what
you have been preparing yourself for . . . that's why you're
nnounces Its Fifth Annual
                                         Sponsored by
                           ALPHA TAU SIQMA
                 National Honorary Engineering Journalism Fraternity
                                ..CONTEST RULES..
  I   All stIolenrts who aMT freshme1Cn1 in the College of Engi-
necriog of the University of Wisconsin are eligible for compe-
2. A pencil mechanical drawing accompanied by an ink
traling to bc assigned by the instructional staff of the drawing
dcpai rtiont as a part of the rCgLar 11- work in Drawing 2 will
sersc as the entry in the contest.
3. Entrics will be received by the d(rawing department up
to and i    illding April 16, 1 938
4. The three best drawings shall be awarded first, second,
and third places, rcspectivClV, by the judges. The three winners
wvill ieceive material prizCs as announccd in the April issue of
the lW'i.sconsin Engineer.
5. The entries will be judged under the general headings
given below, which are listed in the order of their weighted
values, the first receiving the greatest weight:
            2. ACCURACY
            3. LETTERING
            4. NEATNESS
 6.  One or more of the winning entries will be reproduced
 in the pages of the May issue of the Wisconsin Engineer.
 7. The judges are J. W. MeNaul, assistant professor of ma-
chine design; W. S. Cottingham, assistant professor of structural
engineering; and R. W. Fowler, assistant professor of drawing,
Extension Division. Their decision will be final.
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