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Kaminski, John P.; Saladino, Gaspare J.; Leffler, Richard; Schoenleber, Charles H.; Hogan, Margaret A.; Reid, Jonathan M. (ed.) / Ratification of the Constitution by the states: New York (5)
23 (2009)

V. The New York Convention, 17 June-26 July 1788 (continued),   pp. 2169-2340

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Convention Debates, 16 July 17881
JOHN SLOSS HOBART. wishes a pause for a time to consider of the
highest consequence-on one hand a part of the state insist on an
unconditional adoption-on the other a conditional one we had better
adjourn-& give time for the people to consider-have we not reason
to apprehend-dreadful consequences if-this question is taken this
the Com[m] ercial people may-devise a mode to meet their North-
ern brethern-while there is a ray of hope-we ought not to loose
sight of it-Moves for an adjournment- seconded by Mr Duane-
and urges the propriety of it-as Mayor, the political father of a great
City-has motives peculiar to himself-to wish for peace-
Motion read by the secretary- [Gilbert Livingston, Notes, NN]
[For Hobart's motion to adjourn, see Convention Journal, 16 July
(immediately above).]
JOHN LANSING, JR. opposes the motion-two-reasons urged one to
consult with our constituants-that we might the better determine-
Much has been said on the subject of the proposition before the com-
mittee of this house-condl. amends. no conviction has been produced
by all that has been said-if we adjourn-the country will be in a
flame-& when we return we shall not be able to deliberate as coolly
as we now do- [Gilbert Livingston, Notes, NN]
WILLIAM HARPER. wishes a call of the Members in town- [Gilbert
Livingston, Notes, NN]
THOMAS TREDWELL. objects to it as an argumentative Motion-it
comes from the wrong side of the house-if the Gent. will say that
their sentiments are changed-he will consent- [Gilbert Livingston,
Notes, NN]
ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON. it is not for our sentiments but for our con-
stituants-Gent. have said that they wish to meet us on middle
ground-this supposes a change of sentiment in our constituants-
Argumentative no objection-the rules say nothing about it-Lansing
observd-that heat will be kept up-thinks not-they will be pleased
by this appeal-the Conven [tio] n are convinced a conven [tio] n cannot
be obtd. in the mode proposed-will not both sides of the house pub-
lish our sentiments which will tend to increase the heat-thinks the

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