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Kaminski, John P.; Saladino, Gaspare J.; Leffler, Richard; Schoenleber, Charles H.; Hogan, Margaret A.; Reid, Jonathan M. (ed.) / Ratification of the Constitution by the states: New York (5)
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V. The New York Convention, 17 June-26 July 1788 (continued), pp. 2169-2340
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CONVENTION DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS, 15 JULY 1788 for those as mentioned in these propositions the Members of NY would pledge themselves to endeavor for their adoption- [Gilbert Livingston, Notes, NN] [For the form of ratification and the amendments read by Alexander Hamilton on 15 July, see Convention Debates and Proceedings, 17 July, RCS:N.Y, 2205-8, 2218, note 19.] JOHN LANSING, JR. Let us take the Question whether we will adopt the Constitution Conditionally or absolutely- Many of these Ideas are valuable and ought be introduced into the Amendments- [McKesson's Notes, NHi] LANSING. wishes the gent. who read his propositions [Alexander Hamilton] would make a formal motion to bring them before the house-does not wish to reject them entirely-as there are many good Ideas in them-but wishes the questn to be taken wheather the con- vention will adopt the constitution without conditional amends. [Gil- bert Livingston, Notes, NN] JOHN JAY. We are endeavouring to agree-Gent See we have brot forth valuable Amendmts. Cannot the Conditional Amendments be paired down so that we may agree We honestly think Congress must reject such an Adoption-Cannot we endeavour further to Accommodate-The Gentlemen have ad- vanced for Accommodation-We have now advanced for Accommodat. [McKesson's Notes, NHi] JAY. it must be evident from the props. that they wish to accommo- date-& pledge themselves to endeavor an Amendt- does not this weigh-to unite all our force-is it not certain that the conds. will render our admittance into the Union uncertain-all has been said, that can be-that the conds will amount to a rejection- declare that they think it will destroy the constitution-shall we not accommodat[e] -each appear to have a disposition to advance-had we not better wait, and endeavor to meet- [Gilbert Livingston, Notes, NN] WILLIAM HARPER. We are now where we were 3 or 4 days ago- 2179
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