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Jensen, Merrill; Kaminski, John P.; Saladino, Gaspare J. (ed.) / Ratification of the Constitution by the states: Pennsylvania
2 (1976)

The ratification of the Constitution by Pennsylvania,   pp. [29]-[52]

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(CC:288-C). Tench Coxe began distributing printed pages of Lloyd's
Debates before they were published. On 16 January 1788 he wrote
to James Madison in Congress in New York, that he was sending sixty
pages "which I am anxious to get into the hands of Mr. [Rufus] King
for the use of the gentlemen in the Massachusetts Convention" (RC,
Madison Papers, DLC). On 27 January Coxe wrote to Madison again:
"From your letter with respect to the Convention at B [oston] I have
been anxious to procure the rem [ainde] r of Mr. Lloyd's debates to
send to Mr. King. There were some pages more struck off, which I
have obtained and cover them to you with a letter to be forwarded as
before" (RC, Madison Papers, DLC).
Three members of the Convention-all supporters of the Consti-
tution-took notes of debates. The most complete notes, those taken
by James Wilson, are in the Wilson Papers in the Historical Society of
Pennsylvania. They consist of three documents. The first document
contains forty-seven pages of notes of debates between 26 November
and 12 December. Wilson does not report his own speeches and seldom
indicates when he spoke. His main concern was to list the arguments
of opponents of the Constitution so that he could answer them in
set speeches from time to time. Between 3 and 8 December, Wilson
numbered all of the Antifederal objections consecutively in his
daily notes, listing a total of 240 objections (there were actually 241,
number 134 being repeated). These notes were published as an ap-
pendix to McMaster and Stone, Pennsylvania and the Federal Con-
The second document is a six-page outline for Wilson's speech on
4 December. The first four pages, headed "Objections," lists thirty-
four numbered Antifederal objections which Wilson compiled from
his notes of debates on 28 and 30 November and 1 December. These
pages outlined Wilson's speech in the morning; while the last two
pages, headed "Reasons for adopting the Constitution," outlined his
speech in the afternoon.
The third document is a three-page outline for Wilson's speech on
11 December. This outline, headed "2d List of Objections," consists
of twenty-nine general, unnumbered objections compiled by Wilson
from his daily notes. After each general objection, Wilson listed (in
abbreviated form) the specific objections which fell within the sphere
of that general objection. The abbreviated citation for the specific
objections included: (1) the page numbers of Wilson's manuscript
daily notes on which the objections were listed or (2) the number
assigned by Wilson to the objections made between 3 and 8 December.
The notes taken by Anthony Wayne cover the debates between

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