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Kaminski, John P.; Saladino, Gaspare J.; Leffler, Richard; Schoenleber, Charles H.; Hogan, Margaret A.; Reid, Jonathan M. (ed.) / Ratification of the Constitution by the states: New York (5)
23 (2009)

VII-D. New York recommends the calling of a second constitutional convention,   pp. 2501-2530

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Confederation Congress, proposed amendments during the debate on
how to transmit the Constitution to the states for their ratification.
Congress refused to debate the substance of the amendments and re-
jected Lee's proposal. Lee's amendments were not even entered on the
journal (CC:95). On 16 October Lee wrote Randolph advocating the
calling of another general convention to propose amendments. Lee's
letter was printed in the Petersburg Virginia Gazette on 6 December and
was reprinted widely in newspapers, a pamphlet anthology, and the
Philadelphia American Museum, attracting considerable public and pri-
vate commentary (CC:325). In New York, it appeared in two newspa-
pers-in the New York Journal, 22, 24 December, and in part in the
Albany Gazette, 10 January 1788.
On 10 October 1787 Governor Edmund Randolph wrote a letter to
the Virginia legislature explaining why he had not signed the Consti-
tution and why, in the Constitutional Convention, he had supported
another general convention. He declared in his letter that no alterna-
tive was "less exceptionable" than such a convention as a way to obtain
amendments. Randolph's letter first appeared as a pamphlet late in
December 1787, and on 2 January 1788 it was reprinted in the Virginia
Independent Chronicle. It was widely reprinted in newspapers, a pamphlet
anthology, and the Philadelphia American Museum, and it received both
criticism and praise (CC:385). In New York, it was reprinted in five
newspapers-Daily Advertiser, 8 January; New York Journal, 9, 11 January;
Albany Gazette, 17 January; Hudson Weekly Gazette, 24, 31 January; and
Country Journal, 29 January, 5, 12, 19 February.
In December 1787 the Virginia House of Delegates debated a bill to
pay state Convention delegates, which included a provision to pay del-
egates to a second general convention if the state Convention proposed
amendments and appointed delegates to a second convention to con-
sider the amendments. This explicit provision was stricken before the
bill passed and was replaced by a general provision to pay any expenses
needed to communicate with the other states or their conventions. (See
RCS:Va., 183-93.) On 19 February 1788 Antifederalist Arthur Lee wrote
Richard Henry Lee that George Mason believed that the Virginia Con-
vention, scheduled to meet in June, "will recommend another general
Convention" (RCS:Va., 620).
Little attention was paid in New York to the idea of a second general
convention until the publication of Governor Edmund Randolph's let-
ter to the Virginia legislature. "Americanus" VII (Federalist John Ste-
vens, Jr.) did not think another convention was needed, and, if called,
it would be ineffective. A harmonious convention was thought to be

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