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Kaminski, John P.; Saladino, Gaspare J.; Leffler, Richard; Schoenleber, Charles H.; Hogan, Margaret A.; Reid, Jonathan M. (ed.) / Ratification of the Constitution by the states: New York (5)
23 (2009)
VII-B. Public and private commentaries on the Constitution, 25 July 1788-23 February 1789, pp. 2426-2498
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VII. AFTERMATH OF NEW YoRK RATIFICATION of what was said in Convention has been justly stated, yet he thinks an apology due to the Gentlemen concerned, for the imperfect dress in which their arguments are given to the Public. Not long accustomed to the business, he cannot pretend to as much accuracy as might be expected from a more experienced hand;-and it will easily be compre- hended how difficult it must be to follow a copious and rapid Speaker, in the train of his reasoning, much more in the turn of his expression. New-York, Dec. 1, 1788. Newspaper Report of Assembly Debates, Thursday, 8 January 17894 MATTHEW ADGATE.... I think, sir, that by some late publications that have been made, the public is as liable to be misled as from any thing that has appeared in the newspapers; what I mean is, that the speeches that are made in public bodies ought to be published with great pre- cision; and as newspapers have been produced, I shall beg leave to read a short extract from one I have in my hand. (He then read some illiberal and unjustifiable remarks that were published in an Albany paper against the Editor of the Debates in Convention, accusing him of partiality to the federal- ists.) 5 Having read the paper, for the truth of the observation, he said, he must refer to the determination of every gentleman who had heard the arguments, and had since read the publication. (Impliedly acknowl- edging that he did not know whether the accusation was well founded; how could he? he had not yet read the Debates!) WILLIAM HARPER thought it was improper to introduce newspapers into the house as proofs. With respect to the Debates, he thought they were not impartially stated. PHILIP LIVINGSTON.6 I have read the publication, and I agree that the speeches are not exactly stated as they were delivered; nor do I believe it is possible for a Short Hand writer to take down every word that is said. But, with respect to partiality in that pamphlet, I think the speeches of those who were opposed to the constitution are done more justice to than what they deserved, particularly those of Melancton Smith. Sir, I do not think there has been any partiality shewn to the federalists-there is no facts on which such an assertion can be founded. We are rather, therefore, to consider the remark as ill-natured-than just. . .. BROCKHOLST LIVINGSTON.... I trust, sir, that the gentlemen who have brought forward Mr. Childs, did it on full conviction of their being able, when called upon, to satisfy the house of the propriety of their conduct: but if, contrary to their expectations, any serious allegations should be supported against him, they will be as ready to abandon, as they have hitherto been anxious to forward his pretensions. 2492
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