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Kaminski, John P.; Saladino, Gaspare J.; Leffler, Richard; Schoenleber, Charles H.; Hogan, Margaret A.; Reid, Jonathan M. (ed.) / Ratification of the Constitution by the states: New York (5)
23 (2009)

V. The New York Convention, 17 June-26 July 1788 (continued),   pp. 2169-2340

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If the Gent move these as amendmts. we may proceed-If they with-
draw their former Motion we may proceed-We delay Time without
new Light- [McKesson's Notes, NHi]
HARPER. we do not advance one step-here are propositions men-
tioned, but nothing regularly before the committee till there is a Mo-
tion on them-we cannot notice them- [Gilbert Livingston, Notes,
JOHN LANSING, JR. wishes to have something decidedly may bring
these matters before the house-they now stand on the same ground
they did-& have not made any real advances- [Gilbert Livingston,
Notes, NN]
WILLIAM HARPER. cannot go on till the questn is taken [Gilbert Liv-
ingston, Notes, NN]
ALEXANDER HAMILTON. hopes the questn will not be pressed-as the
Amends. expres [s]ly contemplate a condition-hopes-time will be
taken to consider of the New propositions-and not pass the [revi-
sion?] [i.e., Smith's amendment of Jay's motion] by hastily takeing this
questn-which Must be binding finally- [Gilbert Livingston, Notes,
WILLIAM HARPER. we cannot advance without taking the questn. un-
less the propositions are brought in by a Motion- [Gilbert Livingston,
Notes, NN]
JAMES DUANE. the Gent. is right as to order [Gilbert Livingston,
Notes, NN]
GEORGE CLINTON. the propositions are the same-substantially the
same as the first Motion of Mr. Jay-no new motion can bring it reg-
ularly before us- [Gilbert Livingston, Notes, NN]
JOHN JAY. When we consider that the Amends. [i.e., Hamilton's] are
in conformity to the Motion on the table-they are proper- [Gilbert
Livingston, Notes, NN]

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