National Educational Television Records, 1951-1969

 
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Pascale, Marge, 1992 August 24, Bayfield, Wisconsin
Alternate Format: Recorded interview and transcript available online.

Biography/History

Marge (Newagon) Pascale was born on August 23, 1921, the ninth of eleven children on the Red Cliff reservation. Of the four girls and seven boys, three died in infancy. Her parents were both Chippewa, her mother enrolled in the Red Cliff band and her father in the Fond du Lac band of Minnesota. She attended the Red Cliff Indian Elementary School and the Bayfield High School. After completing the tenth grade, she left home to work as a nurse's aide at the Indian Field Hospital in Hayward, Wisconsin.

After the outbreak of World War II she went to Milwaukee on the advice of a friend, who mentioned that families were looking to hire Indian girls to help out with the household and their children. After a brief stay with one family, she went to work at the Ambrosia Chocolate Factory. She worked there for two years, then quit in 1943 when she joined the Women's Auxiliary Air Corps (WAAC). She received her basic training at Daytona Beach, Florida, and then was stationed at various times in the states of Washington, Arizona, Colorado, and New Jersey. She worked in the photo lab, checked parachutes for defects, and worked as a nurse's aide. While working in a hospital in Atlantic City, New Jersey, she met Joe Pascale, a fellow employee. They married in 1945 and eventually had three children. At the end of the war Mrs. Pascale reenlisted, serving until 1947. Her husband then enlisted in the National Guard and worked as a mechanic in New Jersey. When Mr. Pascale retired, they returned to the Red Cliff reservation, where they live today.

Scope and Content Note

Mrs. Pascale starts off her interview by explaining her family background and her upbringing on the Red Cliff reservation. She discusses what it means to her to be an American Indian and mentions some issues important to her today. She then talks about her experiences as a nurse's aide in Hayward, including what her duties were and her social life. After working in Hayward for three years, she moved to Milwaukee to live with a family and care for their children. She relates how this job ended when she was fired for staying out all night. She also describes her social life at this time, when she was very busy dating the sailors on leave in Milwaukee.

Mrs. Pascale then describes her work at the Ambrosia Chocolate Factory, where she was employed after her dismissal. Mrs. Pascale then explains the reasons for her decision to join the WAACs. She describes basic training and her first assignment, where she worked in a photo lab in Washington state. She relates some of her experiences, including late night “gab sessions” with the other women, where she first learned about lesbians. She also describes an incident in which she was the victim of a practical joke played on her by some of her male co-workers.

Mrs. Pascale then talks about her experiences in the hospitals and examining parachutes. She mentions that she refused to work around the civilian women in the hospitals, preferring to work with the men, whom she saw as less demanding.

Mrs. Pascale ends the interview by relating her first meeting with her husband and by describing their wedding, which took place while both were in the military. She finishes by talking about her children, and the values she tried to instill in them.