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Interview #466: Clarenbach, Kathryn F. (September, 2009)

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Sixth Interview Session (October 27, 1987): Tape 6

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00:07

KC describes her experiences as Executive Secretary with the Encampment for Citizenship, a special project of the Ethical Society and mentions Hank Herman, who hired her to work there. As she describes the experiences that led to finding this job, she explains her philosophies on choosing a career, especially for women. She remembers two women who waged a successful lawsuit to stop the Federal government from requiring recipients of Social Security to sign a loyalty oath.

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10:20

KC discusses how her support of Wallace affected her work and relationships at the Ethical Society. She talks about her friendship with Hank Herman and his wife Gertrude, both of whom moved to Madison after 1960.

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13:59

KC describes the financially difficult year and a half between leaving the Ethical Society and moving to Michigan to work at Olivet College. She explains how both she and her husband got jobs at Olivet.

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18:01

The B'hai family who cared for Sarah made a strong impression on KC. She explains why the courses she taught at Olivet were some of the best she's ever had and shares some of her theories on teaching. She also tells how she helped “turn around” one UW student.

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24:38

KC discusses the details of small-town life in Olivet, which she enjoyed, and mentions her mother's encounter with movie star Van Johnson. She tells about her first meeting with her lifelong friend Ruth Engel and her husband Paul and shares stories from their “marvelous” friendship.

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36:12

Returning to life in Olivet, KC discusses the position of women and some of the activities she enjoyed. She explains why they left and begins to talk about the farewell parties that were held in their honor.

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46:00

KC continues to discuss the farewell activities held in their honor before they left Olivet. After leaving Olivet, the Clarenbachs stayed with KC's mother in Sparta.

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49:15

KC describes in detail the family's cross-country trip to California, where they stayed with their friends Bob and Irene Bland for a couple of months while they searched for jobs. She talks briefly about life in Los Angeles and explains their reasons for moving.

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54:39

KC's husband Hank finally found a job with the American School, which offered private, home-study correspondence courses in St. Louis, and the family hurried back east.

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59:08

KC discusses the four years the family spent in St. Louis, particularly her experience with the League of Women Voters and her position on their State Board. Her son David was born in September of 1953.

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1:03:57

KC describes the family's move to Staten Island when Hank was offered a promotion with the American School, including their efforts to find a house and to sell their car.

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1:06:34

KC talks about life in New York, where she still did not work and where Janet was born. Hank obtained a job application for her at a local college in an effort to encourage her to start teaching again. Staten Island wasn't their kind of life because of the disparity between rich and poor and the lack of community.

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1:11:13

Returning again to her life in St. Louis, KC focuses on the impact of Senator Joseph McCarthy, who was prominent at that time.

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1:13:13

End of interview session 6

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