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Interview #466: Clarenbach, Kathryn F. (September, 2009)

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Tape 2

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00:03

The children usually attended one of their father's Sunday morning services. KC talks about Sunday pursuits. Sundays were hectic for her mother.

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04:48

KC's father did not recognize how much energy her mother expended on housework. When she had her own family, KC did not spend as much time doing domestic chores as her mother had. During her first years in Madison, KC did not have much time with her children because domestic chores took up so much of the weekend. As soon as she had enough money, she hired a housekeeper. She did not realize how hard her mother's life had been while she was growing up.

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10:41

KC discusses religion. After she came to UW, she did not attend church often. She was sometimes involved in activities that were religiously-oriented, such chairing the University Youth Federation, but she does not know how religious she was or is. She thinks it is important to follow one's conscience.

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13:23 Second Interview Session (September 22, 1987): Tape 2

KC met many ministers and missionaries from other countries in her parents' home. She and her father entered into political discussions, and disagreed with each other at times. KC valued the leadership that Roosevelt provided on important issues, such as racial discrimination. She was very excited when she met the latter in an elevator in the national museum. KC gives an example of how her father changed with the times. [Note: this interview session ends around 19:15. ]

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19:28

KC talks about her mother, who had a very full life though in some ways she remained dissatisfied. She was a very warm and motherly person. She was a schoolteacher when she met KC's father, who was a state legislator and local preacher. She tutored her children. She was an avid reader and had played basketball during high school.

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26:23

By the time KC started high school interscholastic sports for girls had been discontinued. Her brothers were all involved in athletics. KC also engaged in many athletic activities during her high school years. Due to time constraints, she had to forgo athletics and other free time activities after she moved Madison.

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28:57

KC's mother took trips separately from her father. They had many different interests. Her mother loved to visit relatives and close friends. It was a “state occasion” when KC's parents came to visit her; she recalls some of these visits.

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35:48

KC's mother quit teaching after she got married. She talks about her mother's influence on her development. There was never a sense of class in her family. In her own family, she celebrates holidays and birthdays the same way as her birth family. KC inherited some of her mother's organizational skills.

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43:22

KC discusses her education in the public school system. She started kindergarten at age 2½ and finished up with a Ph.D. at age 25.

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47:26

KC took first and second grade in the same year. At the junior and senior high schools, "A" students were exempt from final exams, a practice she finds regrettable. She had never taken a final exam until she came to UW. Her first exam was a shock for her. KC's mother let her take one day of her choice off per semester.

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51:31

Throughout life, KC has tried to lighten the load when it became too much. She talks about things she eliminated and things she kept in her life.

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59:14

KC's husband Hank took an interest in the school activities of their children. They were co-presidents of the West High PTA. There was a role reversal because she was so busy with the women's movement: her husband did the behind the scenes work, and she gave the reports.

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1:01:27

Until she was a junior in high school, KC did not view school as a place to learn, but as an arena to show what she knew. She particularly enjoyed physics and German Club.

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1:05:52

KC sold tickets at the movies and worked at a gift shop to make spending money for college. When she was in high school, she did some practice teaching at the junior high. She was comfortable because she did a lot of public speaking in school. When she was a freshman in high school, she went out for extemporaneous speaking. After two years she joined the debate team and participated in extemporaneous reading. Her college major was political science. Her father felt she should be preparing for a practical career, such as teaching.

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1:14:21

KC was valedictorian of her class. She talks about having the lead in the senior class play.

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1:16:20

End of interview session 2

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