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History of the Forest Products Laboratory

Interview #992: Lulling, Robert M. (June, 2009)

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00:25:02 - 00:29:02 Colleagues, Relationships

colleagues, relationships; Eickner, Herbert W., technicians, Publications, authorship

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As far as my work with Eickner was concerned, having worked with him so much we knew each other's likes and dislikes and whatnot. He got to depend upon me for a lot of the information that he wrote up in report form. He rarely did any research work with bonding and whatnot, his duties were to take that information, compile it, organize it and get it ready for publication. So I was instrumental in doing a lot of this work that was published, I was the only technologist that worked with him full-time. We did have a couple of fellows that came at one time or another later on, but they were to learn what I was doing and it was more or less a training situation and they didn't stay there very long, maybe a year at the most. But I was predominately Herb's Man Friday.

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How I got the information from Herb as to what he wanted done, this was done sometimes orally, but usually in the form of a written data sheet or a rough draft. In most cases the techs were not permitted to author publications and in very rare instances they could co-author some publications. I never was given that permission but I did write a lot of reports that were considered library reports and they were catalogued in the Forest Products Laboratory and people would refer by letter as---you know for certain things, and that catalog reference was pulled and by letter form was sent back to the inquirer. But I never authored anything that was published and the reason for that was because I did not have a degree. I had the equivalent degree, but I did not the sheepskin end. If I was ever called in to court I could not appear as an expert so that's one of the reasons, but the technologists in this laboratory did most of the research work and some of their subordinates helped, but it was usually the technologists that did most of it. Herb Eickner received a certificate award from the Navy for work that we did on developing the FPL Etch and I wasn't even recognized but I knew what it was all about.

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