That sounds like some good projects. So I'm reaching the end of our questions here, so do you have any other stories or memories of comments about the Lab or anything that you would like to record for posterity?

Well, when I came to the Lab, I was celebrating, we were celebrating our seventy-fifth anniversary and so now we are coming up on our one hundredth anniversary and it's been a pleasure to see the changes and a real honor to work here. And I just hope that the Forest Products Laboratory will continue because our forest resources always changed, we have never, we never solve all the problems because the resource changes. And when the resource changes, you have to adapt and modify processes that you used to use into new processes. And I think that wood being a renewable material is going to be with us and I think that it can provide some of our energy requirements for the future.

Okay, alright. Well thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us.

Alright, it was fun. Reminiscing! (Laughs)

Yeah, I enjoyed it.