I've heard from a couple different people that the Lab had social functions for Lab employees. Did you take part in any of those?

Well, the things like the summer picnics and so forth, yeah, yeah, I usually did that if we were in town. Yeah, that's true there was a, for several years there, there was at least one and sometimes there was two big, Lab-wide picnic types or barbeque or grill-outs or whatever you want to call them. I bet you'd have about 100, 150 people there maybe counting the spouses and that sort of thing. So, but I was thinking more of going to people's house for dinner or, and I'm not necessarily a bowler, so I wasn't in any of the bowling leagues. You may have heard about bowling leagues and this sort of thing, but I never did participate in that just because I didn't have a particular interest in it.

Was the bowling league pretty big here?

Well, I mean it had it's devoted following, I would say, you know, and there were some people---there's one fellow, you've probably heard of him, he was bowling when he was ninety.

Oh wow.

He was a retiree, of course; he'd started before. And he was bowling, I think, up until the time he was ninety or something. But I just didn't participate, just lack of interest on my part. I didn't have anything against bowling or against the people in the group; it's just that bowling, oh. And then of course you'd hear about some card-playing groups, but I'm not a particular card-player either, so I said, okay.