Well in general do you feel that you accomplished everything that you set out to accomplish career wise and did the Forest Products Lab help you with that?

Yes I did. You know you never really [finish your work]; you always got projects going and you say well when I get done with this one it will be a good time to hang it up. Well while you're working on that one you start another one and then another one. So you got three going at the same time and they never have the same end point. So you just have to say well somebody else can finish it, the Lab was going on before I got here and it will go on after I leave here, that's about the philosophy you have to have. [Short pause].

Well that's kind the end of my questions unless you have any other stories, memories, or comments about the Forest Products that you would wish to record for posterity before we go.

I think you've probably heard them all by now. Anything else would be X rated. No, I think we've pretty much covered it and I hope it's helpful to you.

I think so.